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hey everyone welcome to the ufo hub live

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stream

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so today is a bit different i know

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usually i have fridays which

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i will uh um have another show this

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friday as well

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but um i wanted to uh it was an actual

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idea

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by one of uh one of the people that had

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left a comment

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uh initially um well actually let me let

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me show you where it's at

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initially this person

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i believe it was here the comment

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okay let me make this a bit bigger for

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all right um

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i love these colorful usernames i can't

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never pronounce them since

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you go ghetto

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ugado oh anyway well the the

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question was what about doing a q a and

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interview

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some of your viewers on discord now of

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course i've heard of discord

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i've always used telegram but i

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eventually left it up as an option

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i had replied here saying working on it

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this was about six days ago

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and um it uh the tests that i've done

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worked out great

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and so check out if you if you are

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part of telegram find your for hub group

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and uh

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the voice chat should be already active

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and going

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there so yeah i'll uh later on i have

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some announcements to take but

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to do but uh go ahead and join the group

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um unmute yourself and raise your hand

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so that that will tell me

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whether or not you want to partake i

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haven't checked yet if there was anyone

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else in the group but

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if not we'll we'll find something else

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it's it's something that depends on how

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popular

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it gets they were about let me make the

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smaller again

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77 so out of out of 70 votes

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77 were for telegram and 23 for discord

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so i just went ahead and set it up for

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telegram because i was already

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very comfortable with it i kind of

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already knew how it functioned

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so i figured why not just stick to that

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since even um

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the majority of people are interested to

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want to be on and share their story

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uh we're using telegram anyway so

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the other part that i wanted to cover

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is this friday i'm going to have

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mike dooley on he's the gentleman do you

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see here

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on the on the screen and i've

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interviewed him a while back

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it was on right before he came out

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with his book thoughts become things or

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something like that

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i'm sorry i'm probably butchering it now

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but i'm going to have him on at 7 00 pm

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central time on friday

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and we'll be discussing different topics

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and of course he will then if you submit

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your question in the chat

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with the three three stars um if you

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have a question for him i'll i'll ask

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him and hopefully get your answer

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so anyway mike dooley is gonna be the

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guest at 7 pm

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this friday and 7 p.m central time

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uh the if you if you paid attention last

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i've kind of started uh it's not an

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endorsement of different websites but

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people that have reached out and

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wanted kind of their website to to be

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or wanted to do some kind of partnership

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which i don't do

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but at least i can you know just say hey

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uh there's this site check it out

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um i'm you know i'm not endorsing them

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if they seem interesting how it's simply

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me just saying hey check this out if

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if not you know that's up to you but um

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this this website is it's called uh

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what's up with ufos

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and they do these different different

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videos where they're short and they

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uh the research or or different kind of

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stuff so anyway

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check it out i promised them i was going

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to mention them so

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if you find something useful there knock

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if not i'm sure you'll find it somewhere

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one of the websites that had reached out

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almost a year ago and it's basically

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afghavat which basically i guess

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and so he wanted to do an interview with

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me in german

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and i was i'm not hesitant to talk about

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the subject but it's been

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pretty good you know pretty much 20

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i've spoken a lengthy period of time

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with somebody in german

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usually it's been a sentence or two and

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i still understand very well

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i'm sure if i just start speaking again

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i can get used to it but

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it's just been too long and i was trying

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to tell them i'm not sure if i

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would know the german equivalent of some

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of these terms

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that that i would have to use to convey

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whatever we're going to be talking about

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when it comes to ufos and

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aliens in that subject in general but

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for those of you that do speak german

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and live in germany and are looking for

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maybe more resources

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he has a different style of presenting

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the different interviews

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that he does it's i believe

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mainly phone phone interviews

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that then he superimposes some pictures

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regarding whatever it is that they're

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and um so that's something that

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maybe could be a resource for those of

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you who live in germany and

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need to would like to know about another

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let me see here the other one is this

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also a german website

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e and from my understanding it's

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um these interviews that are being done

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accessing the the akashic record

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and all kinds of questions basically all

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the subjects that most of us that are

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into this are

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aware of but it's basically in german

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and so i haven't extensively checked it

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out myself

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but again it seemed interesting if you

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are interested in it please check it out

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so anyway that's regarding the the the

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coverage i wanted to do

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um with all of you guys

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let me there's mike dooley again

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yeah i don't know if he's i have it on

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the list if you go on the ufo hub

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youtube channel and go to the actual

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you might have to scroll down a bit

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because it might have been maybe four or

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five years since we've done this

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so i was glad he was he's able to to

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just bear with me i want to check on

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okay yeah and again if uh if some of you

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would like uh again would like to talk

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uh just don't hesitate to just go to

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and basically join the voice chat and

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so i'm going to be periodically

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i'll be periodically checking on the

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okay i'm glad chat is

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alive and well uh welcome everyone there

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greetings from san francisco welcome

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hazel how are you welcome

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space gypsy welcome and uh

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so welcome as well i'm sorry i can't i'm

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butchering the hell out of it

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um gopro vid from the netherlands also

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this this must be pretty late for you

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so i appreciate you staying on because

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it i know hazel had some

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where she said and i believe she was she

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so yeah if you if you do have

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um or an australian

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equivalent of bob but anyway

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so uh don't hesitate to um

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to go to to telegram right now the

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chat is going excuse me the voice chat

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simultaneously streaming on there as

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so if you want to talk to me and share

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your story

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just don't don't hesitate to to join

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sorry i'm just looking over some of the

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the different comment sections

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all right well before i go over

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anything else here oh i don't know if

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to do credit so again to the

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whoever that person was that suggested

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to all

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create these open lines this

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ugo ogogado uh thank you again

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i'm usually very busy to try to follow

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up on every idea that somebody would

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have for me

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but it seemed pretty reasonable it's

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something that it wasn't

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it didn't take from technological and

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technical point of view

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for me wasn't didn't seem that difficult

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to do it would just require a setup and

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a test

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and so it would

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to all of you out there

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appear like this so you should be

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should be able to uh to see it

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right now it's just uh obviously me

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speaking

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so um there's nobody there

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but anyway we'll get back to this later

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if there is somebody would like to come

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on

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and go back to this story some of you

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might have already seen this or heard

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about this and

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again as i mentioned a long time ago i

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don't usually cover

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news but this was something that was

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signed or

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reported actually december 29 to 2020

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and it's from the new york post uh kovit

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19 bill

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started a 180-day 180 day countdown for

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i don't know and i have not looked into

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the detail of

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what was exactly in it because according

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to these

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two paragraphs it said at that time so

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this is

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old news uh president trump's signature

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sunday

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on the 2.3 trillion kovi 19 relief

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and government funding bill started a

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180 day countdown

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for the pentagon and spy agencies to say

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what they know about ufos uh the

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provision

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received very little attention in part

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because it wasn't included in the

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text of the 5593 page

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legislation but as a committee comment

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attached to the annual intelligence

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authorization act

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which was rolled out into into the

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massive bill

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so i don't know what they're actually

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going to

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reveal because it would be very very

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much against

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government character for them to just

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kind of be open and honest about things

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of course over the years they've been

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leaking things and always conjecturing

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about

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what this could be and you know how

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amazing it is how these different ships

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move what they do but

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i'm not sure that that's gonna um

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you know i think they just give us just

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a tiny bit

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to just give a little bit of

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acknowledgement just a tiny bit

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to get the the hardcore researchers

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going and saying oh

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we're on the verge of something new and

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we actually where we all might be

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and i hope so you know but i just don't

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know that they might just have another

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you know very whitewashed meeting about

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you know well we don't know what they

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are and

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the characteristics and the way they're

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you know

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they're from but they don't know you

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know

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they don't uh oppose a national security

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threat

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and they would kind of block the book on

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that it would be very awesome

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and i encouraged for the latter to

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happen which is

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to kind of them just come out and and be

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more

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then again i don't know

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against each other you know and always

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have been so

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maybe one government doesn't want to

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reveal more than the other one knows

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but then again the united states out of

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all these different

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um governments has always been the the

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the last one still this the last one to

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kind of

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officially uh as far as i know

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i could be wrong to release what it is

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exactly that they know

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and just to acknowledge about the tic

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tac and the different ships

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and the videos of those it's not exactly

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revealing everything they know

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but not not this friday obviously

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mike dooley will be on but the friday

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after that i'm going to be talking to

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to red pill junkie is his name i

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actually

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yes i do know his first name i have to

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check with him first if he wants to

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wants me to reveal it obviously he'll be

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on video but he's uh from mexico and so

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i'll be talking to him

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about ufos and how it is that you know

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mexican government and the researchers

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there

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um view the phenomena as opposed to

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american researchers and maybe in the

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future i might find other people from

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different countries that are kind of in

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a similar field and i'm hoping then to

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be able to talk to them about it as well

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but yeah so this i don't know i don't

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know what's going to be

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coming about of of this to be to be

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okay

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let me see here i have

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sometimes it's it's challenging and

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difficult having to go through and

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figure out where i'm at and what windows

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i have open

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all right let's go to the chat

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so this first question i conceive is

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from hazel says have you heard

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anything about the god code in our dna

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this proves

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uh we was designed well i mean

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i've heard about this before and there's

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always

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uh more of the scientific approach

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about what what is dna exactly and then

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there's of course this

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what they call the junk dna and they're

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trying to figure all that out

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but like i said um just ages ago now

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i've kind of shifted away from that but

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yes i've i've heard of that

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[Music]

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bradley cortez welcome says 2am here

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wow thank you all for being up this late

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i didn't i didn't realize that there was

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going to be

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enthusiastic uh people up this late

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but i remember being in being a night

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owl but long time ago

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now usually if um unless i absolutely

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have to

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you know i try to go to bed at a

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uh bradley regarding the link sure i

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mean if you just

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if it's not spam or it's something that

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you actually would like to convey to

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someone else in chat

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please do if it comes up and it denies

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it

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yeah because i had actually turned off

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the slow mode on the chat because the

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slow mode helps me a lot but

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i didn't exactly anticipate that i was

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going to have to

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uh focusing on the chat too much

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and again if you would like to talk to

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me just

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open up your your um telegram

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go over to ufo hub group you should be

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able to find it i believe it's also in

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the description box

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below the specific link to the group and

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there's i have a voice chat running now

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and

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you'll be able to talk to me directly

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over voice

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and everyone else on youtube should be

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because i had earlier today when i was

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posting

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i had obviously had zero because

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nobody else was part of the group and

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there's about

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15 part of the group now and so

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i was hoping maybe somebody would log in

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because early when i made a video i said

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there could be nobody one person or

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you know several i just don't know but

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i've i'll

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i figured uh maybe if it caught people

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off guard

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that i was going to be doing this on

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wednesday um

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because either i would post a video of

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an interview on wednesday or i'll

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do a live show like open lines and it

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possibly both you know there's nothing

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stopping me from doing that it just

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depends on

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what sentiment is i guess by the overall

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so i have just wanted to

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to also indicate that

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on the ufo hub channel list itself i've

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been trying to use this

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community tab a lot more

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i've had you know today's video that's

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coming out

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previous videos some polls um conference

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is coming up also

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which is the ozark mountain ufo

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conference it's

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going to start this saturday and sunday

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and um

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it's the welcome is going to be around 8

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30 a.m central standard time on saturday

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and yeah so obviously it's going to be

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virtual so you can watch it

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from your home and i hope you do join i

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will be

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i've done a lot of the basically we did

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like a practice session with each one of

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the speakers who did several

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and uh today i had uh whitley strieber

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we were just kind of going over um you

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know his connection

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and and um based on the hop-in platform

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how it

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allows to share the screen and any

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videos or pictures

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or presentation anything like that so

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it's been great that um that i kind of

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stumbled across that platform to be able

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to do that

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because it would suck otherwise there

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would have been another year without

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the ozark conference now of course

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from the boss down there's always the

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hopes that

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it will be live again in eureka springs

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arkansas

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uh like it has been since the 80s and uh

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just to kind of continue that tradition

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and it seems like that it's it's gonna

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go that way but again i i don't know i

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mean anything can happen between now and

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then

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but yeah i will i'm using this

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uh community tab uh almost like my my

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facebook

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feed because i noticed uh

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there's not that much engagement on on

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facebook

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and i don't know i can't help i can't

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figure out the algorithms anymore what

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what how often the post what should be

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posted or should not be posted so

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i mean i i copy over whatever i have on

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the twitter ufo

520
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twitter and your facebook and instagram

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but um i i just don't know how well

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it'll come across or how many people

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00:27:48,950 --> 00:27:47,279
will find out

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i noticed that in the under this

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community tab there's a lot more people

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partaking in whatever it is i'm saying

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and they're more aware of what's going

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to come

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come up next so check that often and i'm

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sure it might come up in your feed

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on youtube but i always try to

532
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just use that as my main go-to for

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okay let me see here

534
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i'm going back to the chat to see if

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uh spaceships he says donald connect on

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telegram

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oh okay sorry i guess i'm i thought

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there was something

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00:29:00,950 --> 00:28:56,880
uh in reference to me but i guess you

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yeah let's uh you know i'll take some

541
00:29:09,269 --> 00:29:05,760
questions if i can answer them i will

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otherwise like i said this is totally

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00:29:15,190 --> 00:29:12,320
last minute it was last night i

544
00:29:16,950 --> 00:29:15,200
was excited i was like yes i got it

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00:29:18,070 --> 00:29:16,960
figured out it's working great on

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telegram

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00:29:22,470 --> 00:29:19,919
let's you know let's put that out that

548
00:29:24,070 --> 00:29:22,480
it's has been figured out and and see

549
00:29:26,950 --> 00:29:24,080
what happens so this morning was the

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first time i posted about it and so

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um i didn't mean to blindside anyone but

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00:29:36,070 --> 00:29:33,600
that's all right so maybe i'll um

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00:29:36,710 --> 00:29:36,080
have several more days in advance next

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00:29:39,110 --> 00:29:36,720
time

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uh to just post to say okay another open

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lines on telegram and see what happens

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00:29:45,269 --> 00:29:42,640
and i'll and i'll keep that up

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00:29:46,149 --> 00:29:45,279
and keep it going for a while and see

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how

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00:29:52,149 --> 00:29:49,679
um if it picks up or not but if

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00:29:53,430 --> 00:29:52,159
nobody logs into to want to chat and

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00:29:55,830 --> 00:29:53,440
share their story then

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i can't there's not much i can do about

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okay

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00:30:06,470 --> 00:30:05,990
and uh for for those of you that are new

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00:30:08,470 --> 00:30:06,480
and

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00:30:10,149 --> 00:30:08,480
please remember to if you have a

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question directly for me

569
00:30:13,830 --> 00:30:12,559
i'll put three stars right before you

570
00:30:15,350 --> 00:30:13,840
ask a question because then

571
00:30:17,909 --> 00:30:15,360
that way i know it's it's something for

572
00:30:20,310 --> 00:30:17,919
me and i'll and i'll read it

573
00:30:21,909 --> 00:30:20,320
otherwise like i just did early i would

574
00:30:39,110 --> 00:30:21,919
just read off a comment thinking it's

575
00:30:43,190 --> 00:30:41,669
um there's bradley asking ednan would

576
00:30:45,510 --> 00:30:43,200
you be

577
00:30:47,190 --> 00:30:45,520
up to hosting stephen greer's new ufo

578
00:30:49,990 --> 00:30:47,200
documentary coming in

579
00:30:51,190 --> 00:30:50,000
out two months time hosting on your

580
00:30:54,870 --> 00:30:51,200
youtube channel

581
00:30:57,830 --> 00:30:54,880
um it's a good question

582
00:30:58,870 --> 00:30:57,840
and just to be straightforward just

583
00:31:02,149 --> 00:30:58,880
thank you for the

584
00:31:04,789 --> 00:31:02,159
for the for letting me know but no

585
00:31:06,630 --> 00:31:04,799
i just just because there are other

586
00:31:08,389 --> 00:31:06,640
avenues that i'm sure he

587
00:31:10,789 --> 00:31:08,399
he can use and he doesn't necessarily

588
00:31:14,710 --> 00:31:10,799
need my channel but i just want to

589
00:31:15,190 --> 00:31:14,720
um when i when i know more personally

590
00:31:17,669 --> 00:31:15,200
about

591
00:31:19,110 --> 00:31:17,679
each person that i've talked to or

592
00:31:21,830 --> 00:31:19,120
interacted with

593
00:31:23,669 --> 00:31:21,840
maybe i might feel comfortable to maybe

594
00:31:26,230 --> 00:31:23,679
collaborate with them

595
00:31:27,269 --> 00:31:26,240
but um for example like mike dooley a

596
00:31:28,950 --> 00:31:27,279
while back has

597
00:31:30,710 --> 00:31:28,960
reached out and said hey i've written

598
00:31:33,590 --> 00:31:30,720
this channeling book with this

599
00:31:35,029 --> 00:31:33,600
other gal which then i will i don't know

600
00:31:37,029 --> 00:31:35,039
exactly when but i'll have her on the

601
00:31:40,630 --> 00:31:37,039
show as well to talk about it

602
00:31:42,070 --> 00:31:40,640
and so you know um i know mike i trust

603
00:31:44,870 --> 00:31:42,080
him and so i'll i'll

604
00:31:46,710 --> 00:31:44,880
kind of go with that but i don't i don't

605
00:31:51,110 --> 00:31:46,720
want to

606
00:31:54,630 --> 00:31:51,120
i mean i'll mention channels like i

607
00:32:03,830 --> 00:31:54,640
did early in this show but um not not to

608
00:32:11,350 --> 00:32:06,950
um next question is

609
00:32:17,669 --> 00:32:15,190
so vicky uh said hello and then have you

610
00:32:18,549 --> 00:32:17,679
ever had an experience with dts yes i

611
00:32:20,950 --> 00:32:18,559
have and

612
00:32:22,470 --> 00:32:20,960
that's a very long story i've i've had

613
00:32:25,750 --> 00:32:22,480
if you go to the ufo

614
00:32:26,710 --> 00:32:25,760
hub playlist there's a playlist called

615
00:32:28,549 --> 00:32:26,720
talks and

616
00:32:30,789 --> 00:32:28,559
you can see all the different talks that

617
00:32:32,870 --> 00:32:30,799
i've done up until recently

618
00:32:34,070 --> 00:32:32,880
i also had a live show called the five

619
00:32:36,470 --> 00:32:34,080
stages of contact

620
00:32:38,310 --> 00:32:36,480
more details where i tried to go into a

621
00:32:40,149 --> 00:32:38,320
little bit more details about what it is

622
00:32:41,750 --> 00:32:40,159
that i experienced and

623
00:32:43,190 --> 00:32:41,760
and different subjects and answer

624
00:32:44,789 --> 00:32:43,200
different questions so

625
00:32:46,710 --> 00:32:44,799
i hope that helps it's just not

626
00:33:04,630 --> 00:32:46,720
something i would like to go into

627
00:33:08,310 --> 00:33:07,669
sorry if i go silent a little bit i

628
00:33:10,310 --> 00:33:08,320
haven't been

629
00:33:12,710 --> 00:33:10,320
i'm trying to read what's going on in

630
00:33:13,990 --> 00:33:12,720
the in the comments at the same time

631
00:33:15,990 --> 00:33:14,000
i'm sorry it's probably not that

632
00:33:21,509 --> 00:33:16,000
exciting for you to watch but i

633
00:33:28,950 --> 00:33:24,710
paul crocker says think think mars is

634
00:33:34,070 --> 00:33:32,789
um this might be

635
00:33:36,230 --> 00:33:34,080
this might sound like i'm trying to

636
00:33:36,710 --> 00:33:36,240
evade a question but it's not i i don't

637
00:33:39,590 --> 00:33:36,720
believe

638
00:33:40,389 --> 00:33:39,600
that within this this dimension that it

639
00:33:43,350 --> 00:33:40,399
is

640
00:33:45,110 --> 00:33:43,360
that it's it's bearing for a reason

641
00:33:46,230 --> 00:33:45,120
that's why we see it the way we see it

642
00:33:48,549 --> 00:33:46,240
but

643
00:33:50,549 --> 00:33:48,559
i mean this can technically apply to

644
00:33:54,149 --> 00:33:50,559
anything that exists but

645
00:33:55,669 --> 00:33:54,159
on on a different dimension most likely

646
00:33:58,950 --> 00:33:55,679
that

647
00:34:02,230 --> 00:33:58,960
we still possibly can

648
00:34:03,750 --> 00:34:02,240
get in touch with the different um

649
00:34:05,750 --> 00:34:03,760
i guess with the civilization that was

650
00:34:06,789 --> 00:34:05,760
there at that time which of course

651
00:34:10,310 --> 00:34:06,799
depends on who you

652
00:34:13,669 --> 00:34:10,320
whose book you read and follow um

653
00:34:15,270 --> 00:34:13,679
technically they say that we are the

654
00:34:17,430 --> 00:34:15,280
descendants of that martian

655
00:34:18,389 --> 00:34:17,440
race that once mars were destroyed we

656
00:34:21,750 --> 00:34:18,399
kind of

657
00:34:24,230 --> 00:34:21,760
used all the technology moved over to um

658
00:34:26,069 --> 00:34:24,240
to obviously earth now but anyway that's

659
00:34:30,310 --> 00:34:26,079
again all theories

660
00:34:33,349 --> 00:34:30,320
but uh yeah no not i think they would

661
00:34:36,790 --> 00:34:33,359
that i don't know if nasa is hiding it

662
00:34:38,629 --> 00:34:36,800
on purpose you know or or what because

663
00:34:40,629 --> 00:34:38,639
again it would just be conspiracy theory

664
00:34:43,030 --> 00:34:40,639
but i think the more

665
00:34:43,909 --> 00:34:43,040
uh probes are being sent to mars that we

666
00:34:45,829 --> 00:34:43,919
would

667
00:34:46,950 --> 00:34:45,839
see that there potentially was another

668
00:34:49,190 --> 00:34:46,960
civilization

669
00:34:50,230 --> 00:34:49,200
long ago with the different artifacts

670
00:34:54,790 --> 00:34:50,240
still

671
00:34:57,670 --> 00:34:54,800
amazing um ufo i mean not ufo

672
00:34:58,950 --> 00:34:57,680
amazing um artifact pictures to where

673
00:35:01,910 --> 00:34:58,960
they just

674
00:35:02,950 --> 00:35:01,920
look very no pun intended alien when you

675
00:35:05,270 --> 00:35:02,960
look at that picture

676
00:35:07,589 --> 00:35:05,280
you'll see rock sand and then this

677
00:35:09,349 --> 00:35:07,599
obviously constructed shape and there's

678
00:35:11,670 --> 00:35:09,359
hundreds of those there's different

679
00:35:12,230 --> 00:35:11,680
websites i used to follow maybe 15 years

680
00:35:13,670 --> 00:35:12,240
ago

681
00:35:16,230 --> 00:35:13,680
that would kind of that would be the

682
00:35:18,710 --> 00:35:16,240
whole job there was scour

683
00:35:20,230 --> 00:35:18,720
anything that nasa has about mars and

684
00:35:20,710 --> 00:35:20,240
they will look over the pictures and

685
00:35:23,190 --> 00:35:20,720
then

686
00:35:24,150 --> 00:35:23,200
point out any anomalies so it's always

687
00:35:25,990 --> 00:35:24,160
it's always fun

688
00:35:27,670 --> 00:35:26,000
but at the end it just leaves you you

689
00:35:27,990 --> 00:35:27,680
know leaves you guessing if anything it

690
00:35:31,750 --> 00:35:28,000
was

691
00:35:33,190 --> 00:35:31,760
about it

692
00:35:35,349 --> 00:35:33,200
try to look at it i mean no different

693
00:35:37,990 --> 00:35:35,359
than reading a science fiction book

694
00:35:38,710 --> 00:35:38,000
even though you know if the author says

695
00:35:40,630 --> 00:35:38,720
this is

696
00:35:43,030 --> 00:35:40,640
you know made-up story like you know

697
00:35:46,150 --> 00:35:43,040
star trek and all of that at least it's

698
00:35:46,870 --> 00:35:46,160
um entertainment but you can also look

699
00:35:50,390 --> 00:35:46,880
at

700
00:35:52,630 --> 00:35:50,400
being true

701
00:35:53,750 --> 00:35:52,640
you know and and kind of just follow

702
00:35:56,630 --> 00:35:53,760
that you know

703
00:35:58,069 --> 00:35:56,640
to where well it is possible for nasa to

704
00:36:00,310 --> 00:35:58,079
possibly hide

705
00:36:01,349 --> 00:36:00,320
something you know it is possible that

706
00:36:03,349 --> 00:36:01,359
whatever

707
00:36:05,349 --> 00:36:03,359
gets through you know is actually

708
00:36:12,150 --> 00:36:05,359
another artifact from a civilization

709
00:36:15,750 --> 00:36:12,160
long gone

710
00:36:19,270 --> 00:36:15,760
and so um don't uh

711
00:36:21,349 --> 00:36:19,280
don't forget to um

712
00:36:22,870 --> 00:36:21,359
if you do have telegram and you would

713
00:36:25,829 --> 00:36:22,880
like to share your story and

714
00:36:27,829 --> 00:36:25,839
want to talk to me just go to telegram

715
00:36:28,630 --> 00:36:27,839
search for ufo hub then you'll find a

716
00:36:30,390 --> 00:36:28,640
group

717
00:36:32,870 --> 00:36:30,400
where there should be a voice chat going

718
00:36:33,750 --> 00:36:32,880
on right now and uh feel free to join

719
00:36:58,950 --> 00:36:33,760
and uh

720
00:37:04,230 --> 00:37:02,550
well yeah naturally nathan

721
00:37:05,910 --> 00:37:04,240
it says can i ask my question on

722
00:37:07,510 --> 00:37:05,920
telegram sure i mean

723
00:37:09,270 --> 00:37:07,520
that's why it's there even if you don't

724
00:37:12,069 --> 00:37:09,280
have a story i mean why not

725
00:37:12,550 --> 00:37:12,079
they can just be because i have it open

726
00:37:15,270 --> 00:37:12,560
you know

727
00:37:17,109 --> 00:37:15,280
for for this purpose we could just you

728
00:37:23,349 --> 00:37:17,119
can just ask a question instead of

729
00:37:25,109 --> 00:37:23,359
it being having to be read on on chat

730
00:37:51,109 --> 00:37:25,119
and that goes for for anyone that would

731
00:37:55,990 --> 00:37:53,589
uh this one is from uh donald it says

732
00:37:58,790 --> 00:37:56,000
anything to add to the through

733
00:38:00,310 --> 00:37:58,800
i guess third july 1947 roswell new

734
00:38:03,510 --> 00:38:00,320
mexico crash

735
00:38:08,069 --> 00:38:03,520
retrievals and ebe corpse

736
00:38:10,069 --> 00:38:08,079
autopsy um

737
00:38:11,750 --> 00:38:10,079
maybe i don't know maybe some of you

738
00:38:12,710 --> 00:38:11,760
already know about this but something

739
00:38:17,589 --> 00:38:12,720
that

740
00:38:18,790 --> 00:38:17,599
told through bashar which was really

741
00:38:22,950 --> 00:38:18,800
interesting

742
00:38:26,390 --> 00:38:22,960
that he mentioned what initially caused

743
00:38:28,550 --> 00:38:26,400
caused the crash was the the radar

744
00:38:29,910 --> 00:38:28,560
that was being tested at that time

745
00:38:32,630 --> 00:38:29,920
because it was

746
00:38:33,270 --> 00:38:32,640
they were still developing different um

747
00:38:36,550 --> 00:38:33,280
i guess

748
00:38:39,750 --> 00:38:36,560
different radar devices and um

749
00:38:41,510 --> 00:38:39,760
i guess mess with their

750
00:38:43,829 --> 00:38:41,520
navigations and their ships and it

751
00:38:44,230 --> 00:38:43,839
caused the crash that's what what he was

752
00:38:46,310 --> 00:38:44,240
saying

753
00:38:47,910 --> 00:38:46,320
and i thought that was interesting i

754
00:38:50,069 --> 00:38:47,920
don't know if it's wildly known

755
00:38:51,430 --> 00:38:50,079
or if some of you have read about that

756
00:38:53,349 --> 00:38:51,440
but um

757
00:38:54,870 --> 00:38:53,359
if anything just take it in put it in

758
00:38:57,030 --> 00:38:54,880
the back of your head and

759
00:38:59,349 --> 00:38:57,040
see maybe eventually if there's more

760
00:39:01,109 --> 00:38:59,359
data about this then

761
00:39:11,510 --> 00:39:01,119
you know at least you have some kind of

762
00:39:20,150 --> 00:39:15,190
okay well we have um i don't mean to put

763
00:39:35,750 --> 00:39:25,270
but we have one person

764
00:39:35,760 --> 00:39:45,109
hi copper clad lad can you hear me

765
00:39:45,119 --> 00:39:53,430
hello can you hear me

766
00:40:10,870 --> 00:39:56,470
okay let's see what what the problem he

767
00:40:22,550 --> 00:40:10,880
could be

768
00:40:41,270 --> 00:40:24,069
okay let's try this one more time can

769
00:40:41,280 --> 00:40:46,710
that's a bummer

770
00:40:46,720 --> 00:40:51,190
let's see

771
00:40:51,200 --> 00:40:56,950
how about now oh yes i can hear you now

772
00:41:02,069 --> 00:41:00,230
oh which which part

773
00:41:03,910 --> 00:41:02,079
push to talk on and i wasn't pressing

774
00:41:06,790 --> 00:41:03,920
the button

775
00:41:07,270 --> 00:41:06,800
oh okay there's setting in telegram that

776
00:41:17,190 --> 00:41:07,280
i

777
00:41:21,510 --> 00:41:17,200
to

778
00:41:23,829 --> 00:41:21,520
see if i can get some feedback from

779
00:41:25,589 --> 00:41:23,839
from the chat can can you guys hear this

780
00:41:26,230 --> 00:41:25,599
i know it's there's about a 20 second

781
00:41:28,470 --> 00:41:26,240
delay

782
00:41:30,309 --> 00:41:28,480
if you can let me know that you hear

783
00:41:30,630 --> 00:41:30,319
hear him then we should be good to go

784
00:41:38,790 --> 00:41:30,640
and

785
00:41:42,069 --> 00:41:40,230
but yeah thank you uh thank you for

786
00:41:45,109 --> 00:41:42,079
joining me yeah

787
00:41:46,470 --> 00:41:45,119
um well my name is nathan okay yeah if

788
00:41:48,069 --> 00:41:46,480
you don't mind sharing i just didn't

789
00:41:49,910 --> 00:41:48,079
want to um

790
00:41:53,109 --> 00:41:49,920
i didn't want to give out any other

791
00:41:55,910 --> 00:41:53,119
information that you might i understand

792
00:41:57,510 --> 00:41:55,920
this is fine i'm pretty open myself

793
00:42:00,630 --> 00:41:57,520
right

794
00:42:03,349 --> 00:42:00,640
uh my question if if you don't mind i

795
00:42:06,390 --> 00:42:03,359
can ask it now um

796
00:42:09,670 --> 00:42:06,400
you um i don't know if you know this

797
00:42:12,390 --> 00:42:09,680
uh series on gaia tv they have a

798
00:42:13,990 --> 00:42:12,400
one called cosmic disclosure and on

799
00:42:15,349 --> 00:42:14,000
cosmic disclosure there's a guy named

800
00:42:20,550 --> 00:42:15,359
emery smith

801
00:42:21,990 --> 00:42:20,560
heard the name

802
00:42:24,470 --> 00:42:22,000
okay yeah go ahead what were you going

803
00:42:27,990 --> 00:42:24,480
to ask well he he has

804
00:42:31,030 --> 00:42:28,000
very interesting uh like recounts of his

805
00:42:34,069 --> 00:42:31,040
of his involving with uh like

806
00:42:36,630 --> 00:42:34,079
live uh aliens and such uh

807
00:42:38,230 --> 00:42:36,640
he has apparently uh accounted on gaia

808
00:42:40,870 --> 00:42:38,240
tv on this

809
00:42:42,710 --> 00:42:40,880
like the first season of cosmic

810
00:42:46,230 --> 00:42:42,720
disclosure that he has

811
00:42:46,870 --> 00:42:46,240
uh seen this technology that uh possibly

812
00:42:50,069 --> 00:42:46,880
has like

813
00:42:52,870 --> 00:42:50,079
healing technology out there and what he

814
00:42:54,790 --> 00:42:52,880
what he claims and what he says is that

815
00:42:57,589 --> 00:42:54,800
every time he goes on to like

816
00:42:59,430 --> 00:42:57,599
get interviewed or goes on say cosmic

817
00:43:01,910 --> 00:42:59,440
disclosure and gets interviewed

818
00:43:03,990 --> 00:43:01,920
that he may accidentally slip and like

819
00:43:05,750 --> 00:43:04,000
say too much or something and then

820
00:43:07,349 --> 00:43:05,760
the next thing he knows is that he

821
00:43:08,630 --> 00:43:07,359
notices that this technology is now

822
00:43:10,309 --> 00:43:08,640
being developed by com

823
00:43:11,910 --> 00:43:10,319
companies they're starting this new

824
00:43:13,270 --> 00:43:11,920
healing programs and stuff like that so

825
00:43:14,309 --> 00:43:13,280
i was wondering if there's anything

826
00:43:17,030 --> 00:43:14,319
about that

827
00:43:18,470 --> 00:43:17,040
anywhere else other than you know emory

828
00:43:19,990 --> 00:43:18,480
talking about that there's healing

829
00:43:24,309 --> 00:43:20,000
technology being developed

830
00:43:26,309 --> 00:43:24,319
like with this like new incoming age of

831
00:43:28,230 --> 00:43:26,319
you know technology and such are you

832
00:43:30,150 --> 00:43:28,240
referring to what's also

833
00:43:31,910 --> 00:43:30,160
um generally kind of known as like the

834
00:43:33,990 --> 00:43:31,920
med med beds

835
00:43:36,630 --> 00:43:34,000
yeah kind of okay like that i would

836
00:43:38,390 --> 00:43:36,640
think that too

837
00:43:40,470 --> 00:43:38,400
you know that's it's you know very

838
00:43:42,390 --> 00:43:40,480
interesting because

839
00:43:43,829 --> 00:43:42,400
the one the one part that's that's

840
00:43:45,510 --> 00:43:43,839
really um

841
00:43:46,870 --> 00:43:45,520
i guess it really sucks about different

842
00:43:50,150 --> 00:43:46,880
governments is because

843
00:43:51,910 --> 00:43:50,160
because of their lack of

844
00:43:54,470 --> 00:43:51,920
transparency and because they don't want

845
00:43:55,990 --> 00:43:54,480
to they don't want to talk about what it

846
00:43:59,430 --> 00:43:56,000
is that they know

847
00:44:00,790 --> 00:43:59,440
you know um it's the possibility for

848
00:44:03,990 --> 00:44:00,800
something like that to

849
00:44:08,630 --> 00:44:04,000
to exist out there is obviously

850
00:44:10,870 --> 00:44:08,640
you know great and if it is you know

851
00:44:12,069 --> 00:44:10,880
it's very psychopathic almost for them

852
00:44:14,230 --> 00:44:12,079
not to share it

853
00:44:15,670 --> 00:44:14,240
you know to just kind of it to be hidden

854
00:44:17,910 --> 00:44:15,680
you know because

855
00:44:19,190 --> 00:44:17,920
why would you you know if if everyone

856
00:44:21,270 --> 00:44:19,200
can benefit from this

857
00:44:22,630 --> 00:44:21,280
eventually the whole world will be you

858
00:44:25,510 --> 00:44:22,640
know

859
00:44:26,630 --> 00:44:25,520
a better place so to say and it's it's

860
00:44:28,870 --> 00:44:26,640
it's

861
00:44:29,829 --> 00:44:28,880
you know i don't know because here's the

862
00:44:31,990 --> 00:44:29,839
other part

863
00:44:33,829 --> 00:44:32,000
there would have to be a lot of people

864
00:44:34,950 --> 00:44:33,839
that then down this chain that would

865
00:44:38,069 --> 00:44:34,960
have to be

866
00:44:39,910 --> 00:44:38,079
so deluded and so twisted

867
00:44:41,670 --> 00:44:39,920
to just keep it a secret all the way

868
00:44:44,230 --> 00:44:41,680
down from the the

869
00:44:45,750 --> 00:44:44,240
smallest engineer to all the way up to

870
00:44:46,790 --> 00:44:45,760
the person that's supposed to be in

871
00:44:50,630 --> 00:44:46,800
charge of this

872
00:44:52,390 --> 00:44:50,640
to for it to um you know to

873
00:44:54,150 --> 00:44:52,400
somehow leak out the documents or the

874
00:44:55,349 --> 00:44:54,160
mainstream signs they can maybe do

875
00:44:58,950 --> 00:44:55,359
something with it

876
00:45:00,950 --> 00:44:58,960
you know but yeah i mean um

877
00:45:02,470 --> 00:45:00,960
you know i don't i don't know i've heard

878
00:45:04,550 --> 00:45:02,480
the name vaguely and i

879
00:45:06,230 --> 00:45:04,560
don't know that much but i'm glad you

880
00:45:06,950 --> 00:45:06,240
you filled maine on what it is that it

881
00:45:09,349 --> 00:45:06,960
covers

882
00:45:10,150 --> 00:45:09,359
and i don't have i don't have gaia tv

883
00:45:12,710 --> 00:45:10,160
either

884
00:45:14,470 --> 00:45:12,720
yeah i i i do i don't really look at it

885
00:45:16,950 --> 00:45:14,480
that much there's just so much on there

886
00:45:18,470 --> 00:45:16,960
but he he opened me up to that and a lot

887
00:45:21,349 --> 00:45:18,480
of what he talks about

888
00:45:22,710 --> 00:45:21,359
um he now actually hosts uh that show

889
00:45:25,030 --> 00:45:22,720
now which is

890
00:45:25,990 --> 00:45:25,040
you know very interesting on my part to

891
00:45:27,430 --> 00:45:26,000
think that

892
00:45:28,790 --> 00:45:27,440
you know what else is he saying like

893
00:45:29,910 --> 00:45:28,800
what else is he not saying and stuff

894
00:45:33,510 --> 00:45:29,920
like that so

895
00:45:35,270 --> 00:45:33,520
uh that that um his main thing

896
00:45:37,190 --> 00:45:35,280
would be that his main thing he he

897
00:45:38,069 --> 00:45:37,200
apparently did autopsies on aliens and

898
00:45:40,069 --> 00:45:38,079
such in his

899
00:45:41,190 --> 00:45:40,079
his recounting so he has a medical

900
00:45:42,790 --> 00:45:41,200
background

901
00:45:44,630 --> 00:45:42,800
in that you know military medical

902
00:45:47,670 --> 00:45:44,640
background and so-called

903
00:45:49,270 --> 00:45:47,680
he recounts it all on gaia um and so i

904
00:45:53,270 --> 00:45:49,280
just thought that was really cool to

905
00:45:56,630 --> 00:45:53,280
share and ask right let me actually

906
00:46:00,150 --> 00:45:56,640
well uh can you uh

907
00:46:02,069 --> 00:46:00,160
is it e-m-e-r-y emery

908
00:46:03,589 --> 00:46:02,079
or am i spelling someone may have put it

909
00:46:07,510 --> 00:46:03,599
in the chat i don't know

910
00:46:09,829 --> 00:46:07,520
okay i'll check let's figure well

911
00:46:11,030 --> 00:46:09,839
i hope you don't mind um just hanging

912
00:46:12,790 --> 00:46:11,040
out with me for a little bit

913
00:46:14,390 --> 00:46:12,800
there's doesn't seem to be anyone else

914
00:46:16,230 --> 00:46:14,400
and i certainly appreciate you being on

915
00:46:18,230 --> 00:46:16,240
because the whole goal was to

916
00:46:19,750 --> 00:46:18,240
pretty much test it out forever for the

917
00:46:22,150 --> 00:46:19,760
first time so

918
00:46:23,109 --> 00:46:22,160
thank you nathan i appreciate it i'm

919
00:46:26,470 --> 00:46:23,119
glad to

920
00:46:29,270 --> 00:46:26,480
to help and and i don't know um just a

921
00:46:31,109 --> 00:46:29,280
quick recounting of how i found you i

922
00:46:32,630 --> 00:46:31,119
think this was part of my awakening when

923
00:46:34,550 --> 00:46:32,640
it came to just

924
00:46:36,470 --> 00:46:34,560
learning about all this stuff so maybe

925
00:46:38,470 --> 00:46:36,480
about five six years ago

926
00:46:39,750 --> 00:46:38,480
i you know looked at my facebook i

927
00:46:41,349 --> 00:46:39,760
looked at my youtube i'm like

928
00:46:43,349 --> 00:46:41,359
why do i have all these things i don't

929
00:46:44,630 --> 00:46:43,359
like i don't really care for mcdonald's

930
00:46:46,790 --> 00:46:44,640
or south park so

931
00:46:47,670 --> 00:46:46,800
let me start liking the things i do like

932
00:46:49,349 --> 00:46:47,680
and

933
00:46:50,790 --> 00:46:49,359
so i really just deleted all the things

934
00:46:52,630 --> 00:46:50,800
i didn't like on social media and then

935
00:46:54,069 --> 00:46:52,640
started liking all the things i did

936
00:46:55,990 --> 00:46:54,079
and then i started looking at all the

937
00:46:58,390 --> 00:46:56,000
all the new things like

938
00:47:00,950 --> 00:46:58,400
a lot of new age stuff myself i come

939
00:47:02,950 --> 00:47:00,960
from a new age background but not fully

940
00:47:05,270 --> 00:47:02,960
and now it's a lot of it is also ufos

941
00:47:07,190 --> 00:47:05,280
and a lot of other esoteric stuff

942
00:47:08,470 --> 00:47:07,200
and i think in that i think i found your

943
00:47:10,630 --> 00:47:08,480
channel that way

944
00:47:12,710 --> 00:47:10,640
and uh it's just always been on my you

945
00:47:14,710 --> 00:47:12,720
know my news feed and my subscriptions

946
00:47:16,470 --> 00:47:14,720
and and then i saw your your one of your

947
00:47:18,069 --> 00:47:16,480
live streams recently

948
00:47:19,910 --> 00:47:18,079
and i hadn't asked a question on that

949
00:47:22,230 --> 00:47:19,920
and it was really inspiring for me to

950
00:47:23,750 --> 00:47:22,240
to keep listening because you asked you

951
00:47:23,990 --> 00:47:23,760
answered my question pretty well and i i

952
00:47:26,710 --> 00:47:24,000
really

953
00:47:27,190 --> 00:47:26,720
enjoyed that well thank you i appreciate

954
00:47:29,109 --> 00:47:27,200
that

955
00:47:30,390 --> 00:47:29,119
yeah well i mean it's it's a little bit

956
00:47:34,309 --> 00:47:30,400
um

957
00:47:36,230 --> 00:47:34,319
hard for somebody to

958
00:47:37,990 --> 00:47:36,240
unless they have sort of an inspiration

959
00:47:40,150 --> 00:47:38,000
like you did and during my time

960
00:47:42,470 --> 00:47:40,160
i had the same thing to where you just

961
00:47:44,549 --> 00:47:42,480
go out and look for whatever it is that

962
00:47:45,670 --> 00:47:44,559
whatever food your soul is looking for

963
00:47:49,589 --> 00:47:45,680
you know

964
00:47:50,069 --> 00:47:49,599
and uh and and so when you do that you

965
00:47:52,309 --> 00:47:50,079
kind of

966
00:47:54,150 --> 00:47:52,319
you know it resonates with you and you

967
00:47:55,910 --> 00:47:54,160
you kind of go along with that

968
00:47:57,349 --> 00:47:55,920
but then when you're off the sudden in a

969
00:47:59,670 --> 00:47:57,359
spot like where

970
00:48:01,270 --> 00:47:59,680
what i'm doing now is i don't want

971
00:48:01,829 --> 00:48:01,280
people to hang on every word that i'm

972
00:48:03,430 --> 00:48:01,839
saying

973
00:48:05,109 --> 00:48:03,440
you know i would like for them to go

974
00:48:07,190 --> 00:48:05,119
about you know do

975
00:48:08,950 --> 00:48:07,200
do their own research now of course if

976
00:48:11,030 --> 00:48:08,960
if i can help maybe to talk to another

977
00:48:12,390 --> 00:48:11,040
person that knows more than i do about

978
00:48:14,309 --> 00:48:12,400
different subjects then

979
00:48:15,829 --> 00:48:14,319
at least i've helped to feel that much

980
00:48:18,630 --> 00:48:15,839
more but um

981
00:48:19,750 --> 00:48:18,640
it is a bit nerve-wracking that when um

982
00:48:21,589 --> 00:48:19,760
you know

983
00:48:22,790 --> 00:48:21,599
people would would want to know more

984
00:48:25,109 --> 00:48:22,800
about you

985
00:48:26,390 --> 00:48:25,119
and and why am i doing this and what's

986
00:48:28,870 --> 00:48:26,400
going on especially

987
00:48:29,990 --> 00:48:28,880
when it comes to talking about these

988
00:48:32,309 --> 00:48:30,000
personal and very

989
00:48:35,190 --> 00:48:32,319
sometimes intimate stories but it's i

990
00:48:37,030 --> 00:48:35,200
guess sometimes it's required to just

991
00:48:39,030 --> 00:48:37,040
connect on that human level to say hey

992
00:48:39,349 --> 00:48:39,040
i'm human too and this is what happened

993
00:48:43,829 --> 00:48:39,359
so

994
00:48:49,910 --> 00:48:47,109
yeah yeah it's like your

995
00:48:50,870 --> 00:48:49,920
amount amalgamating all of the different

996
00:48:53,349 --> 00:48:50,880
stuff about

997
00:48:55,670 --> 00:48:53,359
what you like and kind of doing your

998
00:48:58,230 --> 00:48:55,680
best on producing that

999
00:48:59,510 --> 00:48:58,240
right well i mean initially you know

1000
00:49:00,950 --> 00:48:59,520
because i was collecting all these

1001
00:49:03,109 --> 00:49:00,960
different documents and i had them in

1002
00:49:05,510 --> 00:49:03,119
pdf form this was

1003
00:49:07,589 --> 00:49:05,520
all about what does the government know

1004
00:49:10,470 --> 00:49:07,599
and um

1005
00:49:12,309 --> 00:49:10,480
you know it there's so much stuff that

1006
00:49:15,109 --> 00:49:12,319
eventually was

1007
00:49:16,470 --> 00:49:15,119
not leaked but you know released and

1008
00:49:19,349 --> 00:49:16,480
declassified

1009
00:49:20,150 --> 00:49:19,359
and when you read it in details it's

1010
00:49:23,190 --> 00:49:20,160
very

1011
00:49:25,030 --> 00:49:23,200
something

1012
00:49:26,790 --> 00:49:25,040
that they're not what they're saying

1013
00:49:27,750 --> 00:49:26,800
publicly but what they're doing in the

1014
00:49:29,109 --> 00:49:27,760
background

1015
00:49:31,030 --> 00:49:29,119
is not the same they would say oh

1016
00:49:31,349 --> 00:49:31,040
there's nothing there they're no threat

1017
00:49:32,630 --> 00:49:31,359
to

1018
00:49:34,230 --> 00:49:32,640
national security but they're

1019
00:49:35,990 --> 00:49:34,240
frantically in the background doing

1020
00:49:37,910 --> 00:49:36,000
everything they can to find out as much

1021
00:49:39,589 --> 00:49:37,920
information as possible

1022
00:49:41,750 --> 00:49:39,599
but it's funny how they release it in

1023
00:49:42,790 --> 00:49:41,760
these very obscure different documents

1024
00:49:46,150 --> 00:49:42,800
and it's

1025
00:49:48,630 --> 00:49:46,160
they're not directly stating things but

1026
00:49:49,270 --> 00:49:48,640
enough to where you can tell some money

1027
00:49:51,190 --> 00:49:49,280
and

1028
00:49:54,390 --> 00:49:51,200
millions upon millions were spent on

1029
00:50:01,829 --> 00:49:58,390
yeah yeah i i am shocked at how much

1030
00:50:04,470 --> 00:50:01,839
disinformation campaigning is

1031
00:50:06,549 --> 00:50:04,480
there is going on there's so much money

1032
00:50:09,910 --> 00:50:06,559
being dumped in this direction

1033
00:50:10,470 --> 00:50:09,920
just to hide it i i'm just absolutely

1034
00:50:13,990 --> 00:50:10,480
shocked

1035
00:50:16,390 --> 00:50:14,000
like ufo and a lot of this stuff is

1036
00:50:18,309 --> 00:50:16,400
isn't really my main subject but i come

1037
00:50:20,150 --> 00:50:18,319
on into it at time to time like recently

1038
00:50:23,670 --> 00:50:20,160
someone shared a ufo

1039
00:50:25,990 --> 00:50:23,680
uh like a a moon moon based documentary

1040
00:50:26,870 --> 00:50:26,000
for me and i was just blown away at how

1041
00:50:28,069 --> 00:50:26,880
much like

1042
00:50:30,230 --> 00:50:28,079
all these different people were

1043
00:50:33,349 --> 00:50:30,240
connecting these dots and everything and

1044
00:50:35,270 --> 00:50:33,359
it was just amazing right well it's in

1045
00:50:36,470 --> 00:50:35,280
what is your initial focus if you don't

1046
00:50:40,790 --> 00:50:36,480
mind me asking

1047
00:50:41,990 --> 00:50:40,800
oh my main focus is just a general um

1048
00:50:44,069 --> 00:50:42,000
i would figure it's a lot of the

1049
00:50:46,630 --> 00:50:44,079
esoteric occult sciences

1050
00:50:48,790 --> 00:50:46,640
natural law um i really really am

1051
00:50:51,030 --> 00:50:48,800
enjoying that where it comes to

1052
00:50:52,069 --> 00:50:51,040
uh some of the things that got me on to

1053
00:50:54,549 --> 00:50:52,079
that were

1054
00:50:57,030 --> 00:50:54,559
ufos and and aliens and things like that

1055
00:50:59,430 --> 00:50:57,040
but a lot of it came from

1056
00:51:00,630 --> 00:50:59,440
uh like health a lot of it was from

1057
00:51:03,190 --> 00:51:00,640
health and then

1058
00:51:05,670 --> 00:51:03,200
i turned into like just seeking like

1059
00:51:07,670 --> 00:51:05,680
different forms of thought like uh

1060
00:51:09,270 --> 00:51:07,680
new age thought like the power

1061
00:51:11,030 --> 00:51:09,280
empowerment training and

1062
00:51:12,950 --> 00:51:11,040
uh like you know personal development

1063
00:51:14,950 --> 00:51:12,960
stuff and then it kind of went into

1064
00:51:17,270 --> 00:51:14,960
the sciences and then from there i

1065
00:51:19,030 --> 00:51:17,280
learned about a guy named mar pacio

1066
00:51:20,470 --> 00:51:19,040
and mark pouncillo really took me on

1067
00:51:23,349 --> 00:51:20,480
that yep

1068
00:51:24,390 --> 00:51:23,359
yeah mark mark uh i i'm actually really

1069
00:51:26,710 --> 00:51:24,400
close with him and

1070
00:51:27,430 --> 00:51:26,720
and his work and and keep keep in touch

1071
00:51:30,630 --> 00:51:27,440
with him a lot

1072
00:51:32,549 --> 00:51:30,640
and uh he has really opened my eyes to a

1073
00:51:35,030 --> 00:51:32,559
lot of that stuff and i really have

1074
00:51:35,589 --> 00:51:35,040
you know put my heart on that line of of

1075
00:51:39,430 --> 00:51:35,599
work

1076
00:51:40,950 --> 00:51:39,440
of natural law in you know it was very

1077
00:51:43,510 --> 00:51:40,960
interesting the first time i met

1078
00:51:45,589 --> 00:51:43,520
mark it was um actually organized by a

1079
00:51:46,470 --> 00:51:45,599
late friend of mine called ray mummy and

1080
00:51:49,510 --> 00:51:46,480
it's this was

1081
00:51:51,270 --> 00:51:49,520
taking place in san luis he said this

1082
00:51:52,630 --> 00:51:51,280
guy mark is going to come to talk can

1083
00:51:54,870 --> 00:51:52,640
you come record

1084
00:51:56,470 --> 00:51:54,880
and i had no idea what this is for i did

1085
00:51:57,109 --> 00:51:56,480
i could didn't understand if he wanted

1086
00:52:00,470 --> 00:51:57,119
to re

1087
00:52:03,670 --> 00:52:00,480
you know

1088
00:52:06,549 --> 00:52:03,680
favor as a friend or what but um

1089
00:52:06,950 --> 00:52:06,559
i wasn't quite sure what i signed up for

1090
00:52:09,030 --> 00:52:06,960
then

1091
00:52:10,309 --> 00:52:09,040
when i saw him i immediately realized

1092
00:52:11,829 --> 00:52:10,319
that i actually watched some of his

1093
00:52:12,790 --> 00:52:11,839
other videos where he breaks down the

1094
00:52:15,270 --> 00:52:12,800
matrix

1095
00:52:17,589 --> 00:52:15,280
and the meaning and this uh is it

1096
00:52:20,790 --> 00:52:17,599
symbolism or symbology i'm kind of

1097
00:52:23,349 --> 00:52:20,800
doing symbolism okay

1098
00:52:24,069 --> 00:52:23,359
symbolism in that movie you know and the

1099
00:52:27,190 --> 00:52:24,079
the

1100
00:52:30,230 --> 00:52:27,200
three three three

1101
00:52:32,950 --> 00:52:30,240
yeah one zero one rooms one zero one

1102
00:52:34,710 --> 00:52:32,960
right right but anyway so and i thought

1103
00:52:35,190 --> 00:52:34,720
this was just going to be a you know

1104
00:52:37,349 --> 00:52:35,200
like a

1105
00:52:38,230 --> 00:52:37,359
you know hour to talk this went on for

1106
00:52:40,630 --> 00:52:38,240
hours

1107
00:52:41,430 --> 00:52:40,640
and i still i have it on the ufo hub

1108
00:52:45,190 --> 00:52:41,440
channel

1109
00:52:48,549 --> 00:52:45,200
um and interesting um so anyways

1110
00:52:49,109 --> 00:52:48,559
uh when when i was when i was talking to

1111
00:52:51,670 --> 00:52:49,119
him

1112
00:52:52,790 --> 00:52:51,680
initially uh because we i recorded the

1113
00:52:55,190 --> 00:52:52,800
whole show and then

1114
00:52:56,390 --> 00:52:55,200
later on when we met up at at uh my

1115
00:52:58,230 --> 00:52:56,400
friend ray's house

1116
00:53:00,150 --> 00:52:58,240
now i asked him if he wouldn't mind

1117
00:53:01,270 --> 00:53:00,160
doing another interview just one-on-one

1118
00:53:03,510 --> 00:53:01,280
with me

1119
00:53:04,470 --> 00:53:03,520
and uh he he agreed and i was very happy

1120
00:53:06,630 --> 00:53:04,480
about that but

1121
00:53:08,309 --> 00:53:06,640
he was saying just you know i can't go

1122
00:53:09,829 --> 00:53:08,319
on much longer because i just spoke for

1123
00:53:11,589 --> 00:53:09,839
eight hours straight and my voice is

1124
00:53:14,950 --> 00:53:11,599
given out

1125
00:53:17,829 --> 00:53:14,960
i didn't think about that you know

1126
00:53:18,230 --> 00:53:17,839
right that's cool i see it here actually

1127
00:53:20,710 --> 00:53:18,240
the

1128
00:53:22,230 --> 00:53:20,720
six years ago right right it's yeah it's

1129
00:53:24,069 --> 00:53:22,240
been a it's been a while

1130
00:53:26,069 --> 00:53:24,079
and it was weird for me too because i

1131
00:53:28,630 --> 00:53:26,079
didn't initially connect the name

1132
00:53:30,710 --> 00:53:28,640
when he was saying to come and see if i

1133
00:53:32,870 --> 00:53:30,720
can record mark pastor i

1134
00:53:35,190 --> 00:53:32,880
said that's fine totally slipped my mind

1135
00:53:37,270 --> 00:53:35,200
that i was watching some of the videos

1136
00:53:39,270 --> 00:53:37,280
of those breakdowns and i like those

1137
00:53:41,910 --> 00:53:39,280
because it has

1138
00:53:44,390 --> 00:53:41,920
you know it the the connection of this

1139
00:53:46,950 --> 00:53:44,400
oneness that we all generally talk about

1140
00:53:49,510 --> 00:53:46,960
it has all these very interesting ways

1141
00:53:52,069 --> 00:53:49,520
of expressing itself to where

1142
00:53:54,630 --> 00:53:52,079
you think you're talking about one thing

1143
00:53:56,950 --> 00:53:54,640
but in reality it's

1144
00:53:57,829 --> 00:53:56,960
it's connecting everything together you

1145
00:54:01,510 --> 00:53:57,839
know and

1146
00:54:01,910 --> 00:54:01,520
um it it's this i guess call it natural

1147
00:54:05,829 --> 00:54:01,920
law

1148
00:54:08,710 --> 00:54:05,839
it's these um different symbols

1149
00:54:10,309 --> 00:54:08,720
you know these occult things that i

1150
00:54:11,829 --> 00:54:10,319
guess they were occult because they

1151
00:54:13,589 --> 00:54:11,839
they really couldn't discuss them back

1152
00:54:14,549 --> 00:54:13,599
then openly otherwise they would

1153
00:54:17,589 --> 00:54:14,559
immediately

1154
00:54:19,910 --> 00:54:17,599
you know label this uh witches and and

1155
00:54:20,710 --> 00:54:19,920
devils and demons and all kinds of stuff

1156
00:54:24,069 --> 00:54:20,720
because

1157
00:54:25,910 --> 00:54:24,079
a very very different point of view

1158
00:54:27,190 --> 00:54:25,920
from what was going on at that time

1159
00:54:28,870 --> 00:54:27,200
would have been would have been

1160
00:54:30,150 --> 00:54:28,880
perceived as a threat so of course it

1161
00:54:36,630 --> 00:54:30,160
had to go into

1162
00:54:41,270 --> 00:54:40,150
i agree yeah a lot a lot of that

1163
00:54:44,309 --> 00:54:41,280
connection

1164
00:54:47,670 --> 00:54:44,319
is really deep and i

1165
00:54:51,510 --> 00:54:47,680
he he had said something to me oh

1166
00:54:54,069 --> 00:54:51,520
not to me on one of his lectures

1167
00:54:56,309 --> 00:54:54,079
where it the truth speaks and the the

1168
00:54:58,309 --> 00:54:56,319
once the truth spoke i i don't know i

1169
00:54:59,910 --> 00:54:58,319
he he seemed to have just spoke

1170
00:55:01,030 --> 00:54:59,920
something that really resonated with me

1171
00:55:04,390 --> 00:55:01,040
to the point where i just

1172
00:55:06,789 --> 00:55:04,400
i heard exactly what i needed to hear

1173
00:55:08,309 --> 00:55:06,799
and it really you know that comes to

1174
00:55:11,510 --> 00:55:08,319
people in different ways

1175
00:55:14,630 --> 00:55:11,520
i know that it may not be for everyone

1176
00:55:16,150 --> 00:55:14,640
and i'll give everyone that uh you know

1177
00:55:17,990 --> 00:55:16,160
benefit of the doubt on

1178
00:55:20,309 --> 00:55:18,000
whether or not they can understand that

1179
00:55:20,950 --> 00:55:20,319
and it it really is a connection of

1180
00:55:22,870 --> 00:55:20,960
things that's a

1181
00:55:24,789 --> 00:55:22,880
it's i think i've heard him say this

1182
00:55:26,309 --> 00:55:24,799
it's like a tapestry

1183
00:55:28,789 --> 00:55:26,319
and you don't have to have all the

1184
00:55:30,150 --> 00:55:28,799
pieces but you can kind of get the

1185
00:55:33,430 --> 00:55:30,160
general picture

1186
00:55:37,750 --> 00:55:35,670
right well it's amazing how much

1187
00:55:38,950 --> 00:55:37,760
information he's able to retain just

1188
00:55:40,950 --> 00:55:38,960
within a talk

1189
00:55:42,549 --> 00:55:40,960
and maybe of course when you practice uh

1190
00:55:44,789 --> 00:55:42,559
certain things enough

1191
00:55:45,670 --> 00:55:44,799
it makes sense that he would be able to

1192
00:55:47,510 --> 00:55:45,680
but just even

1193
00:55:49,829 --> 00:55:47,520
talking to him just later on at the

1194
00:55:50,950 --> 00:55:49,839
after party and uh just having

1195
00:55:53,190 --> 00:55:50,960
discussion

1196
00:55:55,270 --> 00:55:53,200
that he already already talked for eight

1197
00:55:57,750 --> 00:55:55,280
hours on so many different levels and

1198
00:55:58,630 --> 00:55:57,760
subjects and then expounded on even more

1199
00:56:00,870 --> 00:55:58,640
afterwards

1200
00:56:04,390 --> 00:56:00,880
you know and and that's quite quite a

1201
00:56:11,750 --> 00:56:07,750
yeah he is a one tough cookie as well

1202
00:56:15,670 --> 00:56:11,760
like he is in a repository

1203
00:56:19,109 --> 00:56:15,680
uh a wizard and a a a tech whiz

1204
00:56:24,390 --> 00:56:22,390
right right they remember he was uh

1205
00:56:26,549 --> 00:56:24,400
one particular you know always talking

1206
00:56:29,750 --> 00:56:26,559
about people hiding things

1207
00:56:30,950 --> 00:56:29,760
in this particular talk he was he was

1208
00:56:33,750 --> 00:56:30,960
discussing

1209
00:56:34,950 --> 00:56:33,760
um i believe it was forgive me it's like

1210
00:56:36,950 --> 00:56:34,960
you said it's been what six

1211
00:56:38,309 --> 00:56:36,960
seven years ago whatever it said on

1212
00:56:40,470 --> 00:56:38,319
there he um

1213
00:56:41,910 --> 00:56:40,480
he was being he was an i.t guy at this

1214
00:56:43,190 --> 00:56:41,920
place where they were doing research

1215
00:56:47,270 --> 00:56:43,200
about cancer

1216
00:56:49,030 --> 00:56:47,280
and he overheard that somebody

1217
00:56:51,030 --> 00:56:49,040
said something like something along the

1218
00:56:54,309 --> 00:56:51,040
lines of we might have

1219
00:56:57,510 --> 00:56:54,319
we might have a cure here and then this

1220
00:56:59,910 --> 00:56:57,520
higher up person just kind of darted

1221
00:57:01,589 --> 00:56:59,920
straight to towards this person that

1222
00:57:02,069 --> 00:57:01,599
that uttered those words and just said

1223
00:57:04,470 --> 00:57:02,079
to them

1224
00:57:05,190 --> 00:57:04,480
i don't ever want to hear you say these

1225
00:57:07,109 --> 00:57:05,200
words

1226
00:57:09,190 --> 00:57:07,119
here again if you want to keep working

1227
00:57:11,270 --> 00:57:09,200
here and sort of to imply

1228
00:57:13,030 --> 00:57:11,280
that they're they're not in the business

1229
00:57:16,150 --> 00:57:13,040
of finding cures

1230
00:57:17,990 --> 00:57:16,160
right they'll lose their funding right

1231
00:57:20,309 --> 00:57:18,000
right now that's that's the sad part

1232
00:57:22,150 --> 00:57:20,319
when you when you're in such a lack

1233
00:57:23,750 --> 00:57:22,160
and living a life from such a point of

1234
00:57:25,589 --> 00:57:23,760
view of lack that

1235
00:57:26,950 --> 00:57:25,599
you read the hang on to the job then

1236
00:57:29,109 --> 00:57:26,960
actually

1237
00:57:30,230 --> 00:57:29,119
fulfill what it is that you potentially

1238
00:57:32,950 --> 00:57:30,240
could fulfill which

1239
00:57:35,589 --> 00:57:32,960
could in that case you know be a cure

1240
00:57:38,789 --> 00:57:35,599
for cancer

1241
00:57:41,829 --> 00:57:38,799
right the lack mindset

1242
00:57:43,829 --> 00:57:41,839
right yeah very cool very cool very cool

1243
00:57:45,750 --> 00:57:43,839
well it is it is quite a it's almost

1244
00:57:49,430 --> 00:57:45,760
like uh like the word itself

1245
00:57:52,870 --> 00:57:49,440
it says it's a like a dis ease disease

1246
00:57:55,990 --> 00:57:52,880
you know um and and you basically if you

1247
00:57:58,390 --> 00:57:56,000
if you you know it's hard to get out

1248
00:57:59,750 --> 00:57:58,400
of these different mindsets whether it's

1249
00:58:01,829 --> 00:57:59,760
being a victim

1250
00:58:03,589 --> 00:58:01,839
uh feeling you're in lack all the time

1251
00:58:06,309 --> 00:58:03,599
and all these other things

1252
00:58:06,630 --> 00:58:06,319
whether we just i know unknowingly kind

1253
00:58:08,950 --> 00:58:06,640
of

1254
00:58:10,789 --> 00:58:08,960
bought bought into it let's say let's

1255
00:58:12,710 --> 00:58:10,799
take out all the spiritual stuff

1256
00:58:13,910 --> 00:58:12,720
out right let's say you have no idea

1257
00:58:16,789 --> 00:58:13,920
about any of them

1258
00:58:17,510 --> 00:58:16,799
when you see the world and the way it is

1259
00:58:20,470 --> 00:58:17,520
it's almost

1260
00:58:21,030 --> 00:58:20,480
easier and better you know when you

1261
00:58:24,230 --> 00:58:21,040
perceive

1262
00:58:26,630 --> 00:58:24,240
the world as a younger person to

1263
00:58:27,750 --> 00:58:26,640
want to be the victim because then you

1264
00:58:30,789 --> 00:58:27,760
get more help

1265
00:58:32,309 --> 00:58:30,799
you want to be somebody who depends on

1266
00:58:33,910 --> 00:58:32,319
somebody else because then you don't

1267
00:58:37,750 --> 00:58:33,920
have to stand up for yourself

1268
00:58:40,390 --> 00:58:37,760
you know and um it's

1269
00:58:41,190 --> 00:58:40,400
that right there is such a unfortunate

1270
00:58:44,870 --> 00:58:41,200
thing

1271
00:58:47,270 --> 00:58:44,880
to basically not have um

1272
00:58:48,870 --> 00:58:47,280
the most people continue that mindset

1273
00:58:49,510 --> 00:58:48,880
and they don't have anyone to tell them

1274
00:58:51,990 --> 00:58:49,520
otherwise

1275
00:58:52,549 --> 00:58:52,000
now of course i was fortunate to always

1276
00:58:54,309 --> 00:58:52,559
had

1277
00:58:56,390 --> 00:58:54,319
you know very strong-willed parents

1278
00:58:59,750 --> 00:58:56,400
other people in my life that

1279
00:59:01,829 --> 00:58:59,760
basically victimhood was not an option

1280
00:59:03,829 --> 00:59:01,839
you know you either stand up for

1281
00:59:05,349 --> 00:59:03,839
yourself or you die and it was kind of

1282
00:59:07,990 --> 00:59:05,359
that kind of mindset

1283
00:59:10,150 --> 00:59:08,000
you know and so it i find it challenging

1284
00:59:11,910 --> 00:59:10,160
sometimes to talk to people because

1285
00:59:13,589 --> 00:59:11,920
when they speak to me i would always

1286
00:59:14,069 --> 00:59:13,599
given my point of view they would kind

1287
00:59:15,589 --> 00:59:14,079
of

1288
00:59:17,430 --> 00:59:15,599
lift them up a little bit or encourage

1289
00:59:17,990 --> 00:59:17,440
them to do something else but then they

1290
00:59:20,789 --> 00:59:18,000
always come

1291
00:59:21,750 --> 00:59:20,799
up with these perfect pre-programmed uh

1292
00:59:23,750 --> 00:59:21,760
answers of

1293
00:59:24,870 --> 00:59:23,760
but i can't because of this but i can't

1294
00:59:27,190 --> 00:59:24,880
because of that

1295
00:59:30,069 --> 00:59:27,200
you know well i tried it didn't work out

1296
00:59:32,390 --> 00:59:30,079
you know and all these it's basically

1297
00:59:33,190 --> 00:59:32,400
just stay the victim in every step of

1298
00:59:35,910 --> 00:59:33,200
the way just

1299
00:59:36,789 --> 00:59:35,920
do not try you know to to get out of it

1300
00:59:38,710 --> 00:59:36,799
because

1301
00:59:39,990 --> 00:59:38,720
god forbid what kind of person would you

1302
00:59:42,470 --> 00:59:40,000
be when you realize

1303
00:59:43,670 --> 00:59:42,480
you're you know powerful powerful human

1304
00:59:46,309 --> 00:59:43,680
being to begin with

1305
00:59:46,950 --> 00:59:46,319
you know and without those limitations

1306
00:59:50,230 --> 00:59:46,960
just

1307
00:59:53,589 --> 00:59:52,710
yeah i i've come across that a lot my

1308
00:59:55,670 --> 00:59:53,599
family

1309
00:59:56,870 --> 00:59:55,680
a lot of my friends feel the same way

1310
00:59:59,990 --> 00:59:56,880
and i

1311
01:00:01,670 --> 01:00:00,000
uh with the circumstances in my life i i

1312
01:00:03,589 --> 01:00:01,680
do my best to mitigate that victim

1313
01:00:07,109 --> 01:00:03,599
mentality and i do

1314
01:00:07,510 --> 01:00:07,119
i do lean on that a lot in in my work

1315
01:00:11,750 --> 01:00:07,520
and

1316
01:00:14,870 --> 01:00:11,760
on which part

1317
01:00:18,390 --> 01:00:14,880
uh leaning on my on my victim mentality

1318
01:00:19,750 --> 01:00:18,400
oh i see sometimes i do sometimes i

1319
01:00:21,910 --> 01:00:19,760
don't but i feel like

1320
01:00:23,910 --> 01:00:21,920
because of where i am and what the

1321
01:00:25,910 --> 01:00:23,920
circumstances in my life

1322
01:00:27,510 --> 01:00:25,920
that i've gone through a lot of work

1323
01:00:30,150 --> 01:00:27,520
like if some people call it work

1324
01:00:31,670 --> 01:00:30,160
like working on themselves right i i

1325
01:00:32,150 --> 01:00:31,680
don't want to toot my own horn that much

1326
01:00:35,270 --> 01:00:32,160
but it's

1327
01:00:38,309 --> 01:00:35,280
it seems that i i can recognize when it

1328
01:00:38,630 --> 01:00:38,319
when it when it happens and i and i kind

1329
01:00:40,710 --> 01:00:38,640
of

1330
01:00:42,230 --> 01:00:40,720
do my best to mitigate that it doesn't

1331
01:00:46,230 --> 01:00:42,240
always work i i

1332
01:00:48,309 --> 01:00:46,240
always have to you know work on that and

1333
01:00:49,510 --> 01:00:48,319
it helps sometimes to just kind of get

1334
01:00:51,990 --> 01:00:49,520
out there do it live

1335
01:00:53,510 --> 01:00:52,000
and and and see what works you know you

1336
01:00:55,589 --> 01:00:53,520
can't just do nothing

1337
01:00:57,349 --> 01:00:55,599
as well that's also you know fight

1338
01:00:58,710 --> 01:00:57,359
flight or freeze is a part of

1339
01:01:00,710 --> 01:00:58,720
the victim mentality it's a lot of

1340
01:01:02,309 --> 01:01:00,720
people are just frozen stiff

1341
01:01:04,470 --> 01:01:02,319
you gotta really you know shake it a

1342
01:01:06,150 --> 01:01:04,480
little bit to kind of right right

1343
01:01:08,630 --> 01:01:06,160
get out of that and thought thaw

1344
01:01:10,230 --> 01:01:08,640
yourself from being frozen

1345
01:01:11,990 --> 01:01:10,240
nathan just give me one quick second i

1346
01:01:14,630 --> 01:01:12,000
would like to acknowledge john t

1347
01:01:15,990 --> 01:01:14,640
is also in the group and uh john if you

1348
01:01:19,270 --> 01:01:16,000
also would like to

1349
01:01:19,589 --> 01:01:19,280
uh to chat uh let me know and whenever i

1350
01:01:21,990 --> 01:01:19,599
am

1351
01:01:22,789 --> 01:01:22,000
uh whenever i have concluded with nathan

1352
01:01:24,870 --> 01:01:22,799
you know i'll

1353
01:01:27,109 --> 01:01:24,880
bring you back in and then because what

1354
01:01:29,829 --> 01:01:27,119
i would like to do is just do one person

1355
01:01:31,349 --> 01:01:29,839
at a time and discuss any ideas and

1356
01:01:32,789 --> 01:01:31,359
whatever else we have to talk about

1357
01:01:34,630 --> 01:01:32,799
because then if there's too many people

1358
01:01:35,750 --> 01:01:34,640
chatting at the same time it might get

1359
01:01:38,309 --> 01:01:35,760
too chaotic

1360
01:01:39,270 --> 01:01:38,319
but if you would like to chat chat john

1361
01:01:41,910 --> 01:01:39,280
just

1362
01:01:42,870 --> 01:01:41,920
kind of raise your hand so that i know

1363
01:01:47,510 --> 01:01:42,880
that you're interested

1364
01:01:50,710 --> 01:01:47,520
otherwise you're just listening so um

1365
01:01:52,150 --> 01:01:50,720
the nathan what we were talking about

1366
01:01:54,870 --> 01:01:52,160
just earlier if you don't mind me

1367
01:01:58,309 --> 01:01:54,880
sharing a quick story with you about

1368
01:01:59,109 --> 01:01:58,319
um you know finding talking about

1369
01:02:01,750 --> 01:01:59,119
reasons right

1370
01:02:03,349 --> 01:02:01,760
so before i moved where i moved now to

1371
01:02:05,670 --> 01:02:03,359
to arkansas

1372
01:02:07,430 --> 01:02:05,680
i was very much single and out of all

1373
01:02:08,470 --> 01:02:07,440
the different co-workers that i had they

1374
01:02:12,950 --> 01:02:08,480
were all

1375
01:02:14,390 --> 01:02:12,960
worked there for a long time they were

1376
01:02:16,230 --> 01:02:14,400
comfortable where they were

1377
01:02:18,069 --> 01:02:16,240
and of course they just were in the

1378
01:02:18,630 --> 01:02:18,079
mindset of let's not rock the boat which

1379
01:02:19,990 --> 01:02:18,640
is fine

1380
01:02:21,750 --> 01:02:20,000
you know it's like i can't expect

1381
01:02:23,829 --> 01:02:21,760
everyone to of the sudden be this

1382
01:02:25,990 --> 01:02:23,839
braveheart character you know

1383
01:02:27,990 --> 01:02:26,000
but uh what had happened is where i was

1384
01:02:29,510 --> 01:02:28,000
working is none of us for about seven

1385
01:02:32,950 --> 01:02:29,520
years have gotten any

1386
01:02:33,670 --> 01:02:32,960
uh any raises you know and a year prior

1387
01:02:35,430 --> 01:02:33,680
to that

1388
01:02:37,430 --> 01:02:35,440
you know what had happened is they have

1389
01:02:40,870 --> 01:02:37,440
asked everyone to say well

1390
01:02:43,349 --> 01:02:40,880
we could fire 500 people roughly or

1391
01:02:44,630 --> 01:02:43,359
um everyone takes a furlough basically a

1392
01:02:46,789 --> 01:02:44,640
pay cut for a year

1393
01:02:48,309 --> 01:02:46,799
and which will allow us to keep keep

1394
01:02:52,230 --> 01:02:48,319
those people so of course

1395
01:02:53,670 --> 01:02:52,240
you know like the you know good little

1396
01:02:55,349 --> 01:02:53,680
you know crabs in the buckets we're

1397
01:02:56,870 --> 01:02:55,359
trying to well no i think

1398
01:02:58,710 --> 01:02:56,880
that's the wrong word to use crabs

1399
01:02:59,829 --> 01:02:58,720
usually pull each other down whenever

1400
01:03:02,470 --> 01:02:59,839
somebody wants to

1401
01:03:03,270 --> 01:03:02,480
do better uh maybe wrong term i'm using

1402
01:03:05,109 --> 01:03:03,280
but basically

1403
01:03:06,789 --> 01:03:05,119
being these you know good human beings

1404
01:03:09,589 --> 01:03:06,799
we want to help the fellow

1405
01:03:11,029 --> 01:03:09,599
you know fellow co-workers out all of us

1406
01:03:13,750 --> 01:03:11,039
took a pay cut so that ev

1407
01:03:14,549 --> 01:03:13,760
those 500 people could stay on after the

1408
01:03:16,470 --> 01:03:14,559
year

1409
01:03:17,750 --> 01:03:16,480
they then brought us all back up to what

1410
01:03:18,630 --> 01:03:17,760
we were originally getting paid and then

1411
01:03:20,630 --> 01:03:18,640
guess what

1412
01:03:21,990 --> 01:03:20,640
they still fired everybody ordered those

1413
01:03:25,190 --> 01:03:22,000
500.

1414
01:03:25,910 --> 01:03:25,200
yep and so you talking about you know

1415
01:03:30,390 --> 01:03:25,920
morale

1416
01:03:32,390 --> 01:03:30,400
and the the sentiment just was just

1417
01:03:34,789 --> 01:03:32,400
not great the energy you know talking

1418
01:03:37,910 --> 01:03:34,799
about spiritual terms was just

1419
01:03:39,750 --> 01:03:37,920
really heavy and so what i was what i

1420
01:03:41,990 --> 01:03:39,760
was at that time and i guess

1421
01:03:42,950 --> 01:03:42,000
because not not because i was single not

1422
01:03:45,589 --> 01:03:42,960
because i had

1423
01:03:45,990 --> 01:03:45,599
less to lose than everyone else because

1424
01:03:48,789 --> 01:03:46,000
well

1425
01:03:49,589 --> 01:03:48,799
the things that i had meant a lot to me

1426
01:03:51,910 --> 01:03:49,599
at that time

1427
01:03:52,630 --> 01:03:51,920
but i was willing to put him on the line

1428
01:03:55,430 --> 01:03:52,640
you know

1429
01:03:56,470 --> 01:03:55,440
and i was generally saying i said look

1430
01:03:59,910 --> 01:03:56,480
if all of us

1431
01:04:03,190 --> 01:03:59,920
would just simply stand up and say

1432
01:04:05,510 --> 01:04:03,200
you know this is unfair and if

1433
01:04:06,870 --> 01:04:05,520
we would let's say boycott the place you

1434
01:04:09,349 --> 01:04:06,880
know

1435
01:04:11,190 --> 01:04:09,359
because of the intricacies of everyone's

1436
01:04:12,950 --> 01:04:11,200
job it would take

1437
01:04:14,950 --> 01:04:12,960
it would just be it really impossible

1438
01:04:16,950 --> 01:04:14,960
for them to replace every single

1439
01:04:18,150 --> 01:04:16,960
person and this was at least a couple

1440
01:04:20,390 --> 01:04:18,160
hundred people

1441
01:04:22,069 --> 01:04:20,400
you know and i was just trying to get

1442
01:04:24,630 --> 01:04:22,079
them to understand i said we're not

1443
01:04:26,630 --> 01:04:24,640
we're not asking for anything you know

1444
01:04:28,230 --> 01:04:26,640
out of the ordinary the whole point was

1445
01:04:30,069 --> 01:04:28,240
you know they haven't given us raises

1446
01:04:31,270 --> 01:04:30,079
for seven years the company was going

1447
01:04:32,870 --> 01:04:31,280
through bankruptcy

1448
01:04:34,950 --> 01:04:32,880
the person that put the company through

1449
01:04:36,470 --> 01:04:34,960
the bankruptcy successfully she ended up

1450
01:04:37,190 --> 01:04:36,480
getting about nine hundred thousand

1451
01:04:38,630 --> 01:04:37,200
dollars

1452
01:04:40,549 --> 01:04:38,640
and they kept telling us there's no

1453
01:04:43,029 --> 01:04:40,559
money you know

1454
01:04:44,390 --> 01:04:43,039
and so um what i eventually ended up

1455
01:04:46,390 --> 01:04:44,400
doing and i said

1456
01:04:48,230 --> 01:04:46,400
you know i was trying to get somebody to

1457
01:04:50,549 --> 01:04:48,240
join and they still didn't

1458
01:04:52,309 --> 01:04:50,559
so i just instead of just saying well

1459
01:04:53,750 --> 01:04:52,319
there's no one else there joining me

1460
01:04:54,470 --> 01:04:53,760
therefore i should better not do

1461
01:04:57,029 --> 01:04:54,480
anything

1462
01:04:57,589 --> 01:04:57,039
i still not knowing what the outcome

1463
01:04:59,990 --> 01:04:57,599
would be

1464
01:05:01,670 --> 01:05:00,000
went to you know my boss's office at

1465
01:05:02,870 --> 01:05:01,680
that time and actually higher up it was

1466
01:05:03,990 --> 01:05:02,880
more of a director for the whole

1467
01:05:05,430 --> 01:05:04,000
department

1468
01:05:07,589 --> 01:05:05,440
and i just told him i said i'm not

1469
01:05:09,829 --> 01:05:07,599
speaking for anyone else specifically

1470
01:05:11,829 --> 01:05:09,839
but i know that they what i'm saying

1471
01:05:13,910 --> 01:05:11,839
they would feel about it the same way

1472
01:05:16,069 --> 01:05:13,920
is that you keep telling us you want us

1473
01:05:18,710 --> 01:05:16,079
to do these different jobs you want us

1474
01:05:19,190 --> 01:05:18,720
you expect us to perform but yet you're

1475
01:05:20,950 --> 01:05:19,200
not

1476
01:05:23,349 --> 01:05:20,960
upholding your end of the bargain you're

1477
01:05:24,630 --> 01:05:23,359
not giving us you know the cut that of

1478
01:05:27,029 --> 01:05:24,640
the money that you

1479
01:05:27,670 --> 01:05:27,039
you're making out of whatever it is that

1480
01:05:29,349 --> 01:05:27,680
they earn

1481
01:05:31,109 --> 01:05:29,359
now the point is i'm not asking for more

1482
01:05:33,910 --> 01:05:31,119
than was originally agreed upon

1483
01:05:35,589 --> 01:05:33,920
but the bottom line was per e every

1484
01:05:38,309 --> 01:05:35,599
person's contract

1485
01:05:39,750 --> 01:05:38,319
you know if everyone should get paid

1486
01:05:42,870 --> 01:05:39,760
what was agreed upon

1487
01:05:44,710 --> 01:05:42,880
no more no less you know and so

1488
01:05:46,630 --> 01:05:44,720
there his mindset was why the company

1489
01:05:48,150 --> 01:05:46,640
just went through through bankruptcy you

1490
01:05:48,710 --> 01:05:48,160
know the company went through bankruptcy

1491
01:05:50,710 --> 01:05:48,720
and

1492
01:05:51,990 --> 01:05:50,720
you know we just don't have you know

1493
01:05:54,870 --> 01:05:52,000
have the money and

1494
01:05:56,470 --> 01:05:54,880
and so there'll be no raises happening i

1495
01:05:58,470 --> 01:05:56,480
said well i understand but what does

1496
01:06:00,470 --> 01:05:58,480
that have to do with me

1497
01:06:03,190 --> 01:06:00,480
you know he was he was tugging on my

1498
01:06:04,789 --> 01:06:03,200
emotions on my understanding to say oh

1499
01:06:05,670 --> 01:06:04,799
you went through a bankruptcy i better

1500
01:06:08,470 --> 01:06:05,680
understand

1501
01:06:08,789 --> 01:06:08,480
i said would you feel the same way that

1502
01:06:11,109 --> 01:06:08,799
if

1503
01:06:12,069 --> 01:06:11,119
you called me into this office and said

1504
01:06:13,829 --> 01:06:12,079
you're fired

1505
01:06:16,069 --> 01:06:13,839
and i said well you can't because i just

1506
01:06:18,549 --> 01:06:16,079
bought a house and i need this job

1507
01:06:19,190 --> 01:06:18,559
you know it's like if it doesn't work

1508
01:06:21,270 --> 01:06:19,200
that way

1509
01:06:23,029 --> 01:06:21,280
it can't work the other way around i'm

1510
01:06:24,710 --> 01:06:23,039
sorry you had to go to bankruptcy but it

1511
01:06:26,549 --> 01:06:24,720
has nothing to do with the contract and

1512
01:06:27,109 --> 01:06:26,559
agreement that i had specifically with

1513
01:06:29,589 --> 01:06:27,119
you

1514
01:06:31,430 --> 01:06:29,599
and everyone else in this department no

1515
01:06:32,230 --> 01:06:31,440
long story short nothing else happened

1516
01:06:36,470 --> 01:06:32,240
from that

1517
01:06:38,870 --> 01:06:36,480
but the point was to me as sort of a

1518
01:06:40,309 --> 01:06:38,880
mindset of i graduated from this

1519
01:06:42,950 --> 01:06:40,319
victimhood mentality

1520
01:06:43,670 --> 01:06:42,960
you know i was just able to go and talk

1521
01:06:45,349 --> 01:06:43,680
to him

1522
01:06:47,029 --> 01:06:45,359
or you know one-on-one from another

1523
01:06:48,470 --> 01:06:47,039
human to another human instead of

1524
01:06:50,549 --> 01:06:48,480
looking at it as

1525
01:06:52,470 --> 01:06:50,559
oh god if i lose my job i can't pay for

1526
01:06:54,390 --> 01:06:52,480
the car i can't pay for the house

1527
01:06:56,630 --> 01:06:54,400
you know and then you know what am i

1528
01:06:59,510 --> 01:06:56,640
going to do then you know it was

1529
01:07:01,670 --> 01:06:59,520
basically taking control on my own and

1530
01:07:04,470 --> 01:07:01,680
just speaking

1531
01:07:06,549 --> 01:07:04,480
truthfully from my heart without wanting

1532
01:07:08,950 --> 01:07:06,559
anything extra than what was actually

1533
01:07:11,190 --> 01:07:08,960
agreed upon so i'm sorry i'm going kind

1534
01:07:14,630 --> 01:07:11,200
of going into this long story about

1535
01:07:18,230 --> 01:07:14,640
what what it is that um

1536
01:07:20,150 --> 01:07:18,240
you know what i what i went through but

1537
01:07:21,670 --> 01:07:20,160
what i was saying is like there will be

1538
01:07:23,190 --> 01:07:21,680
times where

1539
01:07:25,109 --> 01:07:23,200
it would seem like it's just best to

1540
01:07:27,430 --> 01:07:25,119
keep your head down and not do anything

1541
01:07:28,630 --> 01:07:27,440
and that is exactly the the mindset that

1542
01:07:31,750 --> 01:07:28,640
a lot of us have to

1543
01:07:33,910 --> 01:07:31,760
try to get out of because after that

1544
01:07:35,510 --> 01:07:33,920
it opened my eyes even more and then

1545
01:07:36,630 --> 01:07:35,520
gave me even more of a boost to just

1546
01:07:38,870 --> 01:07:36,640
realize well

1547
01:07:39,829 --> 01:07:38,880
well hold on a minute why am i here they

1548
01:07:41,990 --> 01:07:39,839
don't want to pay me

1549
01:07:43,190 --> 01:07:42,000
they keep expecting work for me so i

1550
01:07:45,270 --> 01:07:43,200
just left

1551
01:07:47,270 --> 01:07:45,280
you know and again i had no plans but i

1552
01:07:48,950 --> 01:07:47,280
again you know because

1553
01:07:51,430 --> 01:07:48,960
i've been going through this for several

1554
01:07:53,670 --> 01:07:51,440
years at that time i just trusted the

1555
01:07:54,950 --> 01:07:53,680
something would come up and sure enough

1556
01:07:58,230 --> 01:07:54,960
i moved to arkansas

1557
01:08:00,630 --> 01:07:58,240
got a new job and and

1558
01:08:01,990 --> 01:08:00,640
basically just things continued

1559
01:08:04,950 --> 01:08:02,000
perfectly normal for me

1560
01:08:05,750 --> 01:08:04,960
but if i never never stood up for myself

1561
01:08:08,309 --> 01:08:05,760
never

1562
01:08:10,069 --> 01:08:08,319
did this sort of graduating move from

1563
01:08:12,230 --> 01:08:10,079
all these years of learning

1564
01:08:13,430 --> 01:08:12,240
and trying to understand you know i

1565
01:08:16,870 --> 01:08:13,440
wouldn't have never really

1566
01:08:18,309 --> 01:08:16,880
recognized my own power and so anyway

1567
01:08:21,829 --> 01:08:18,319
anyway so i just want to tell you that

1568
01:08:24,070 --> 01:08:21,839
regarding taking responsibility and

1569
01:08:24,950 --> 01:08:24,080
staying out of that that victimhood

1570
01:08:27,669 --> 01:08:24,960
mentality

1571
01:08:32,309 --> 01:08:27,679
because it just it just limits you at

1572
01:08:38,149 --> 01:08:35,510
a very profound answer thank you

1573
01:08:39,510 --> 01:08:38,159
so nathan um i'm just gonna uh you know

1574
01:08:40,950 --> 01:08:39,520
please stay on whether you're still

1575
01:08:43,990 --> 01:08:40,960
watching and and um

1576
01:08:45,910 --> 01:08:44,000
um if i just would like to then uh

1577
01:08:47,110 --> 01:08:45,920
bring john in and uh chat with him a

1578
01:09:00,470 --> 01:08:47,120
little bit if that's okay

1579
01:09:07,910 --> 01:09:03,910
um john uh you're on if you can hear me

1580
01:09:09,430 --> 01:09:07,920
can you hear me yes i can oh great

1581
01:09:10,950 --> 01:09:09,440
all right just speak up a little bit you

1582
01:09:11,749 --> 01:09:10,960
seem a bit distant from the mic but

1583
01:09:15,910 --> 01:09:11,759
other than that

1584
01:09:18,789 --> 01:09:15,920
you're coming through all right oh okay

1585
01:09:21,269 --> 01:09:18,799
how's this for levels that's pretty good

1586
01:09:24,309 --> 01:09:21,279
what would you like to talk about

1587
01:09:28,630 --> 01:09:24,319
uh well i just happened to uh see your

1588
01:09:31,349 --> 01:09:28,640
site i watched a couple of your videos

1589
01:09:32,870 --> 01:09:31,359
over the last week i dabble and see

1590
01:09:37,510 --> 01:09:32,880
what's

1591
01:09:43,189 --> 01:09:40,789
saw where you were gonna test

1592
01:09:44,870 --> 01:09:43,199
test this evening with a simulcast if

1593
01:09:46,950 --> 01:09:44,880
you will and uh

1594
01:09:50,789 --> 01:09:46,960
thought i'd come in and i do have a

1595
01:09:54,550 --> 01:09:50,799
actually i have a fairly lengthy ufo

1596
01:09:57,270 --> 01:09:54,560
uh background and experience and uh

1597
01:09:59,030 --> 01:09:57,280
you'd say about talking about maybe some

1598
01:10:02,310 --> 01:09:59,040
experiences and

1599
01:10:04,149 --> 01:10:02,320
thought i'd just call in and see if you

1600
01:10:06,630 --> 01:10:04,159
wanted to test

1601
01:10:07,990 --> 01:10:06,640
guinea if you will you know of course i

1602
01:10:10,390 --> 01:10:08,000
mean test the platform but

1603
01:10:11,990 --> 01:10:10,400
mainly to hear you actually share what

1604
01:10:14,070 --> 01:10:12,000
it is that you would like to share

1605
01:10:15,750 --> 01:10:14,080
i mean looks like everything's working

1606
01:10:17,669 --> 01:10:15,760
so um i'd love to

1607
01:10:19,270 --> 01:10:17,679
to hear from especially from you know

1608
01:10:20,709 --> 01:10:19,280
someone else has also been in the field

1609
01:10:22,310 --> 01:10:20,719
for a long time i mean you

1610
01:10:24,870 --> 01:10:22,320
you experience stuff that's always

1611
01:10:26,630 --> 01:10:24,880
interesting to hear about

1612
01:10:28,229 --> 01:10:26,640
well my background goes is actually

1613
01:10:31,189 --> 01:10:28,239
pretty deep

1614
01:10:33,110 --> 01:10:31,199
and i worked in uh i've worked in media

1615
01:10:36,790 --> 01:10:33,120
for many years

1616
01:10:40,149 --> 01:10:36,800
and did a lot of shows on the paranormal

1617
01:10:43,270 --> 01:10:40,159
and um a lot of subject matters

1618
01:10:46,709 --> 01:10:43,280
of that realm

1619
01:10:48,310 --> 01:10:46,719
and i have a i'm a little older than you

1620
01:10:50,950 --> 01:10:48,320
are and i have a perspective of i've

1621
01:10:53,990 --> 01:10:50,960
seen a lot of this

1622
01:10:57,669 --> 01:10:54,000
take place uh

1623
01:11:01,910 --> 01:10:57,679
over many many years and i've seen uh

1624
01:11:04,950 --> 01:11:01,920
the evil the evolution of things and

1625
01:11:07,750 --> 01:11:04,960
how this is kind of pointing into it

1626
01:11:09,830 --> 01:11:07,760
it's kind of forming in a direction um

1627
01:11:11,430 --> 01:11:09,840
society's picking up on things like just

1628
01:11:14,709 --> 01:11:11,440
watching yourself

1629
01:11:17,990 --> 01:11:14,719
many of the things you say i'm

1630
01:11:19,030 --> 01:11:18,000
i've been very cluey too for for many

1631
01:11:21,590 --> 01:11:19,040
years and it was

1632
01:11:23,270 --> 01:11:21,600
it's nice and refreshing that people

1633
01:11:26,070 --> 01:11:23,280
such as yourself and

1634
01:11:27,110 --> 01:11:26,080
it's coming actually pretty quickly

1635
01:11:30,390 --> 01:11:27,120
about people

1636
01:11:33,189 --> 01:11:30,400
getting the connection between

1637
01:11:33,910 --> 01:11:33,199
um off-planet beings and our own

1638
01:11:38,149 --> 01:11:33,920
development

1639
01:11:40,790 --> 01:11:38,159
because this is in my humble opinion

1640
01:11:41,830 --> 01:11:40,800
this is all pointing towards the w the

1641
01:11:45,110 --> 01:11:41,840
wake up call

1642
01:11:46,390 --> 01:11:45,120
of what we are not who we are but what

1643
01:11:47,910 --> 01:11:46,400
we are

1644
01:11:49,910 --> 01:11:47,920
because you we all have names and

1645
01:11:51,750 --> 01:11:49,920
personalities but that's not really what

1646
01:11:56,310 --> 01:11:51,760
we are

1647
01:11:59,430 --> 01:11:56,320
and the i think the ufo the et

1648
01:12:06,310 --> 01:12:02,709
subject that we here see here

1649
01:12:08,550 --> 01:12:06,320
on this earth many of them and it's a

1650
01:12:09,030 --> 01:12:08,560
very complicated it's a very complicated

1651
01:12:12,950 --> 01:12:09,040
subject

1652
01:12:15,590 --> 01:12:12,960
it's not as you've probably found out

1653
01:12:16,950 --> 01:12:15,600
it's not just cut and dry there's a lot

1654
01:12:18,310 --> 01:12:16,960
of things going on here

1655
01:12:20,390 --> 01:12:18,320
there's a lot of different cross

1656
01:12:20,870 --> 01:12:20,400
currents but one of the big cross

1657
01:12:24,310 --> 01:12:20,880
currents

1658
01:12:26,550 --> 01:12:24,320
is they're here we've i

1659
01:12:27,990 --> 01:12:26,560
i believe through my work and through

1660
01:12:30,790 --> 01:12:28,000
interviewing lots of people

1661
01:12:33,990 --> 01:12:30,800
and being around for a long time i think

1662
01:12:38,310 --> 01:12:36,390
we have almost on a subconscious level

1663
01:12:41,669 --> 01:12:38,320
as a species here on this

1664
01:12:44,709 --> 01:12:41,679
this earth we have called out

1665
01:12:46,070 --> 01:12:44,719
to help us through this great

1666
01:12:47,990 --> 01:12:46,080
i'll call it a great leap in

1667
01:12:52,390 --> 01:12:48,000
consciousness

1668
01:12:56,630 --> 01:12:52,400
again

1669
01:12:59,750 --> 01:12:56,640
it goes back to what we are ultimately

1670
01:13:00,390 --> 01:12:59,760
in in the work i've done it boils down

1671
01:13:03,510 --> 01:13:00,400
to

1672
01:13:05,510 --> 01:13:03,520
there's only one of us here

1673
01:13:07,189 --> 01:13:05,520
right that we're all we are all

1674
01:13:08,149 --> 01:13:07,199
scattered separate beings that were

1675
01:13:11,270 --> 01:13:08,159
created

1676
01:13:13,669 --> 01:13:11,280
long time ago but the

1677
01:13:16,229 --> 01:13:13,679
you you know everything comes back

1678
01:13:19,910 --> 01:13:16,239
around to

1679
01:13:23,669 --> 01:13:19,920
uh linkage synchronicities

1680
01:13:25,270 --> 01:13:23,679
um just phenomenal personal experiences

1681
01:13:27,669 --> 01:13:25,280
and what that's all point one

1682
01:13:28,790 --> 01:13:27,679
what that's pointing to is that we are

1683
01:13:32,310 --> 01:13:28,800
all one

1684
01:13:35,189 --> 01:13:32,320
we are all from the same

1685
01:13:38,390 --> 01:13:35,199
spark source whatever you want to call

1686
01:13:42,070 --> 01:13:40,550
right right can you can you um well

1687
01:13:43,430 --> 01:13:42,080
before i say anything else can you

1688
01:13:44,870 --> 01:13:43,440
expound a little bit more on that

1689
01:13:46,070 --> 01:13:44,880
there's only one of us here

1690
01:13:47,350 --> 01:13:46,080
because i i think i know where you're

1691
01:13:51,270 --> 01:13:47,360
going with that but if you could tell me

1692
01:13:55,270 --> 01:13:53,510
um yeah let me preface this by saying

1693
01:13:57,270 --> 01:13:55,280
anything i speak about or anything any

1694
01:14:00,149 --> 01:13:57,280
of my comments i'm not i'm not

1695
01:14:01,030 --> 01:14:00,159
i'm not are not meant to be religious

1696
01:14:05,189 --> 01:14:01,040
although i was

1697
01:14:08,470 --> 01:14:05,199
respect religion and there they are

1698
01:14:11,910 --> 01:14:08,480
just i think people that

1699
01:14:13,990 --> 01:14:11,920
you really can listen to and get a lot

1700
01:14:17,350 --> 01:14:14,000
out of or just people that are

1701
01:14:20,790 --> 01:14:17,360
into the into the truth

1702
01:14:24,709 --> 01:14:20,800
and so

1703
01:14:28,070 --> 01:14:24,719
the the oneness

1704
01:14:31,110 --> 01:14:28,080
is this thing some people

1705
01:14:32,790 --> 01:14:31,120
might call god but has a lot of that has

1706
01:14:33,590 --> 01:14:32,800
a lot of baggage obviously with the

1707
01:14:40,070 --> 01:14:33,600
label

1708
01:14:42,630 --> 01:14:40,080
but it's this spark of energy of again

1709
01:14:43,430 --> 01:14:42,640
not who you are but what you are and

1710
01:14:47,830 --> 01:14:43,440
what you are

1711
01:14:50,790 --> 01:14:47,840
what we all are is this spark of energy

1712
01:14:52,390 --> 01:14:50,800
that we find and we're you know spirits

1713
01:14:56,709 --> 01:14:52,400
and chemical clothing

1714
01:14:59,990 --> 01:14:56,719
we find ourselves here in this time

1715
01:15:03,350 --> 01:15:00,000
in this illusion and it's a

1716
01:15:03,669 --> 01:15:03,360
and it's it's waking up to what you

1717
01:15:05,189 --> 01:15:03,679
really

1718
01:15:07,510 --> 01:15:05,199
are and that's what's going on on the

1719
01:15:10,950 --> 01:15:07,520
planet that's really

1720
01:15:13,350 --> 01:15:10,960
what it boils down to and things are

1721
01:15:14,149 --> 01:15:13,360
we're in the middle of it right now that

1722
01:15:15,910 --> 01:15:14,159
you can look at

1723
01:15:17,350 --> 01:15:15,920
and everything that you see in the world

1724
01:15:20,550 --> 01:15:17,360
outside

1725
01:15:21,990 --> 01:15:20,560
is is a learning experience for you to

1726
01:15:25,270 --> 01:15:22,000
wake up to that even

1727
01:15:28,550 --> 01:15:25,280
the crazy political stuff the

1728
01:15:33,189 --> 01:15:28,560
um the mainstream media and the

1729
01:15:38,870 --> 01:15:36,550
to see that and wake up to it of course

1730
01:15:41,830 --> 01:15:38,880
you're very correct when you say when

1731
01:15:44,070 --> 01:15:41,840
you talk about going within oneself

1732
01:15:45,910 --> 01:15:44,080
because everything you see outside

1733
01:15:48,550 --> 01:15:45,920
yourself

1734
01:15:50,630 --> 01:15:48,560
is really coming from within and

1735
01:15:52,470 --> 01:15:50,640
projected outward

1736
01:15:56,870 --> 01:15:52,480
and one thing i wanted to say before i

1737
01:16:04,229 --> 01:16:00,790
i knew of bashar back in the early 80s

1738
01:16:06,709 --> 01:16:04,239
when daryl was just getting started

1739
01:16:07,910 --> 01:16:06,719
and what's that can give you kind of

1740
01:16:10,149 --> 01:16:07,920
some perspective i don't know if you

1741
01:16:13,830 --> 01:16:10,159
were aware of this or not but

1742
01:16:16,870 --> 01:16:13,840
um people like the show our channelers

1743
01:16:20,470 --> 01:16:16,880
in the 1980s were really coming on in

1744
01:16:23,270 --> 01:16:20,480
the early to mid 1980s especially

1745
01:16:24,550 --> 01:16:23,280
focused in southern california and daryl

1746
01:16:28,070 --> 01:16:24,560
with darylanka was

1747
01:16:30,950 --> 01:16:28,080
one of them and it was even uh

1748
01:16:32,630 --> 01:16:30,960
shirley mclean and i i don't know are

1749
01:16:35,110 --> 01:16:32,640
you familiar with her

1750
01:16:37,110 --> 01:16:35,120
yes i've i wasn't aware until very

1751
01:16:40,709 --> 01:16:37,120
recently just maybe about a year ago

1752
01:16:42,550 --> 01:16:40,719
that she was also very much into this

1753
01:16:44,630 --> 01:16:42,560
so so what happened i was in the middle

1754
01:16:47,030 --> 01:16:44,640
of all this and i interviewed

1755
01:16:48,709 --> 01:16:47,040
i i've never interviewed daryl anchor

1756
01:16:51,830 --> 01:16:48,719
anchor but

1757
01:16:54,550 --> 01:16:51,840
um i've interviewed others and i noticed

1758
01:16:55,270 --> 01:16:54,560
at that time because part of my job was

1759
01:16:58,709 --> 01:16:55,280
to go out

1760
01:16:59,189 --> 01:16:58,719
and look for interesting subject matters

1761
01:17:05,750 --> 01:16:59,199
to

1762
01:17:07,030 --> 01:17:05,760
and this channeling thing started coming

1763
01:17:10,229 --> 01:17:07,040
up

1764
01:17:12,070 --> 01:17:10,239
and uh i noticed this pattern and there

1765
01:17:13,669 --> 01:17:12,080
were channelers popping up left and

1766
01:17:16,310 --> 01:17:13,679
right again

1767
01:17:17,350 --> 01:17:16,320
mostly in southern california not all

1768
01:17:19,590 --> 01:17:17,360
but

1769
01:17:21,590 --> 01:17:19,600
and daryl was one of them there was

1770
01:17:23,910 --> 01:17:21,600
probably i don't know there's probably

1771
01:17:27,750 --> 01:17:23,920
i'd say a handful

1772
01:17:31,270 --> 01:17:27,760
and then if you look at shirley maclaine

1773
01:17:34,390 --> 01:17:31,280
and her experiences

1774
01:17:37,510 --> 01:17:34,400
uh she wrote about she wrote about them

1775
01:17:39,669 --> 01:17:37,520
in the book out on a limb and she was

1776
01:17:42,709 --> 01:17:39,679
very i was really taken aback

1777
01:17:43,590 --> 01:17:42,719
at how candid she was and how honest she

1778
01:17:46,390 --> 01:17:43,600
was because she

1779
01:17:47,830 --> 01:17:46,400
didn't have she didn't have a lot to

1780
01:17:49,750 --> 01:17:47,840
gain from that you know

1781
01:17:51,910 --> 01:17:49,760
right back in the day she was made fun

1782
01:17:54,470 --> 01:17:51,920
of still is

1783
01:17:56,310 --> 01:17:54,480
uh she was made fun of and and the butt

1784
01:17:59,990 --> 01:17:56,320
of jokes and that kind of thing but she

1785
01:18:03,750 --> 01:18:00,000
she really put it out there and

1786
01:18:06,870 --> 01:18:03,760
uh so i saw this pattern and

1787
01:18:10,229 --> 01:18:06,880
and there was really a

1788
01:18:13,590 --> 01:18:10,239
everything came forward in the

1789
01:18:15,590 --> 01:18:13,600
again early to mid 1980s and that

1790
01:18:18,229 --> 01:18:15,600
brought with it a real well

1791
01:18:19,430 --> 01:18:18,239
and a swelling of this very

1792
01:18:27,830 --> 01:18:19,440
controversial

1793
01:18:29,830 --> 01:18:27,840
form of communication

1794
01:18:31,189 --> 01:18:29,840
um oh you so you basically just kind of

1795
01:18:33,110 --> 01:18:31,199
give me a little background of

1796
01:18:34,470 --> 01:18:33,120
how it initially began is that what

1797
01:18:37,430 --> 01:18:34,480
you're trying to say yeah

1798
01:18:38,950 --> 01:18:37,440
i think because i know you you you like

1799
01:18:40,390 --> 01:18:38,960
bashar and i do too i mean

1800
01:18:41,990 --> 01:18:40,400
there's a lot of things that he says are

1801
01:18:43,590 --> 01:18:42,000
very much right in line

1802
01:18:45,910 --> 01:18:43,600
but i just wanted to give you that

1803
01:18:48,550 --> 01:18:45,920
history to say hey there was a lot

1804
01:18:49,910 --> 01:18:48,560
going on when uh when bashar came out

1805
01:18:53,990 --> 01:18:49,920
and was made public

1806
01:18:57,350 --> 01:18:54,000
and it wasn't as he was nowhere near

1807
01:18:59,750 --> 01:18:57,360
uh publicly um

1808
01:19:00,550 --> 01:18:59,760
acknowledged or known about it's a small

1809
01:19:04,390 --> 01:19:00,560
you know

1810
01:19:07,990 --> 01:19:07,030
so when you see this pattern and then

1811
01:19:10,470 --> 01:19:08,000
and then shirley maclaine

1812
01:19:11,510 --> 01:19:10,480
came out and then shirley did a um she

1813
01:19:14,950 --> 01:19:11,520
did they did a

1814
01:19:18,070 --> 01:19:14,960
um and i think was abc

1815
01:19:20,070 --> 01:19:18,080
brandon tartigoff tartakov which was an

1816
01:19:24,310 --> 01:19:20,080
executive i believe

1817
01:19:27,990 --> 01:19:24,320
i think it was abc he

1818
01:19:29,189 --> 01:19:28,000
uh got surely approved for shirley

1819
01:19:32,310 --> 01:19:29,199
maclaine to do

1820
01:19:34,310 --> 01:19:32,320
a mini-series on television based on her

1821
01:19:36,550 --> 01:19:34,320
book out on a limb

1822
01:19:38,229 --> 01:19:36,560
and being in the business you you know

1823
01:19:39,189 --> 01:19:38,239
you know what's coming up and you read

1824
01:19:42,390 --> 01:19:39,199
the trades and

1825
01:19:43,750 --> 01:19:42,400
variety and it was it was uh announced

1826
01:19:45,350 --> 01:19:43,760
that she was going to do this mini

1827
01:19:46,149 --> 01:19:45,360
series out on a limb and i knew what

1828
01:19:48,229 --> 01:19:46,159
adele

1829
01:19:50,310 --> 01:19:48,239
lim was and i knew how controversial

1830
01:19:53,830 --> 01:19:50,320
this subject us

1831
01:19:57,270 --> 01:19:53,840
just laughing that is

1832
01:20:02,070 --> 01:19:57,280
for them to do that and put this

1833
01:20:03,990 --> 01:20:02,080
out there uh on a mainstream

1834
01:20:05,430 --> 01:20:04,000
network of course this is the of the day

1835
01:20:07,030 --> 01:20:05,440
when there was there was no cable

1836
01:20:09,030 --> 01:20:07,040
television

1837
01:20:11,189 --> 01:20:09,040
it was the three main networks and for

1838
01:20:16,390 --> 01:20:11,199
this and knowing

1839
01:20:17,830 --> 01:20:16,400
having insight on the um

1840
01:20:20,070 --> 01:20:17,840
you know kind of the inside track i

1841
01:20:22,229 --> 01:20:20,080
guess if you will of

1842
01:20:24,149 --> 01:20:22,239
all these spiritual things that were

1843
01:20:26,629 --> 01:20:24,159
coming up

1844
01:20:29,110 --> 01:20:26,639
i said that that is a that's a major

1845
01:20:31,350 --> 01:20:29,120
marker in a timeline

1846
01:20:33,510 --> 01:20:31,360
right well it almost seems like

1847
01:20:35,350 --> 01:20:33,520
obviously that there was

1848
01:20:37,430 --> 01:20:35,360
to use that cliche there there was no

1849
01:20:40,709 --> 01:20:37,440
accident for it to begin when it did

1850
01:20:42,149 --> 01:20:40,719
you know but even um um yeah i was i

1851
01:20:44,390 --> 01:20:42,159
researched as much as i could about

1852
01:20:46,310 --> 01:20:44,400
bashar because i don't if you

1853
01:20:48,709 --> 01:20:46,320
for what you how much you heard about me

1854
01:20:52,390 --> 01:20:48,719
speak about different things about him

1855
01:20:54,310 --> 01:20:52,400
i was you know i initially started out

1856
01:20:56,070 --> 01:20:54,320
looking into this information to find

1857
01:20:59,110 --> 01:20:56,080
out is this another religion

1858
01:21:02,310 --> 01:20:59,120
you know that because they had these

1859
01:21:03,910 --> 01:21:02,320
these what i perceived at that time is

1860
01:21:05,430 --> 01:21:03,920
these religious undertones you know but

1861
01:21:07,350 --> 01:21:05,440
i'm like i don't want to buy into

1862
01:21:09,110 --> 01:21:07,360
another religion you know and and those

1863
01:21:10,870 --> 01:21:09,120
that are religious you know i don't

1864
01:21:12,790 --> 01:21:10,880
mean anything negative by it it's just

1865
01:21:16,070 --> 01:21:12,800
personally what i didn't want to do

1866
01:21:17,189 --> 01:21:16,080
and so you know what was what was

1867
01:21:20,149 --> 01:21:17,199
interesting for me

1868
01:21:21,110 --> 01:21:20,159
is the i know some people say and this

1869
01:21:23,350 --> 01:21:21,120
is what i don't get

1870
01:21:24,629 --> 01:21:23,360
they would say he contradicts himself

1871
01:21:27,350 --> 01:21:24,639
and i'd love to see that

1872
01:21:28,310 --> 01:21:27,360
you know those those examples because i

1873
01:21:31,430 --> 01:21:28,320
have a lot of his

1874
01:21:35,270 --> 01:21:31,440
videos especially from those 10

1875
01:21:38,629 --> 01:21:35,280
15 years ago days for me where i just

1876
01:21:40,229 --> 01:21:38,639
watched it all the time trying to

1877
01:21:41,910 --> 01:21:40,239
see what else what does he say about

1878
01:21:43,189 --> 01:21:41,920
pain what does he say about this what

1879
01:21:47,110 --> 01:21:43,199
does he say about that

1880
01:21:49,270 --> 01:21:47,120
you know and um maybe maybe i've

1881
01:21:50,950 --> 01:21:49,280
indoctrinated myself in this way to

1882
01:21:53,669 --> 01:21:50,960
where i don't see

1883
01:21:55,030 --> 01:21:53,679
any contradictions in some in some way

1884
01:21:55,990 --> 01:21:55,040
but what's interesting is that the

1885
01:21:59,430 --> 01:21:56,000
information he was

1886
01:22:03,030 --> 01:21:59,440
given it changed my life

1887
01:22:05,030 --> 01:22:03,040
right and so changed it to

1888
01:22:06,470 --> 01:22:05,040
it wasn't just like oh i feel better now

1889
01:22:09,350 --> 01:22:06,480
it was such a profound

1890
01:22:09,990 --> 01:22:09,360
change in my life to where even if he's

1891
01:22:11,669 --> 01:22:10,000
just some guy

1892
01:22:13,510 --> 01:22:11,679
with his eyes closed and i've said that

1893
01:22:15,669 --> 01:22:13,520
before um

1894
01:22:17,030 --> 01:22:15,679
why wouldn't i listen you know why

1895
01:22:19,990 --> 01:22:17,040
wouldn't i listen because it

1896
01:22:21,669 --> 01:22:20,000
improved my life i you know i learned

1897
01:22:24,629 --> 01:22:21,679
more i understood more

1898
01:22:26,390 --> 01:22:24,639
you know it it improved everything

1899
01:22:27,669 --> 01:22:26,400
friendships relationships all these

1900
01:22:30,950 --> 01:22:27,679
different things and so

1901
01:22:32,390 --> 01:22:30,960
it's like you know and and other than

1902
01:22:34,629 --> 01:22:32,400
daryl

1903
01:22:35,510 --> 01:22:34,639
especially now charging to watch some of

1904
01:22:38,629 --> 01:22:35,520
these

1905
01:22:40,070 --> 01:22:38,639
on which before

1906
01:22:42,629 --> 01:22:40,080
i guess i don't know if you had to buy a

1907
01:22:44,229 --> 01:22:42,639
ticket back then like in person when you

1908
01:22:46,149 --> 01:22:44,239
when you would go to watch the different

1909
01:22:48,709 --> 01:22:46,159
channels you know but

1910
01:22:49,430 --> 01:22:48,719
like you know when it comes to that like

1911
01:22:52,550 --> 01:22:49,440
i can't

1912
01:22:53,669 --> 01:22:52,560
expect them to you know it sounds great

1913
01:22:55,110 --> 01:22:53,679
it helps somebody

1914
01:22:56,950 --> 01:22:55,120
you know but people say well this

1915
01:23:00,390 --> 01:22:56,960
information should be free

1916
01:23:02,470 --> 01:23:00,400
you know well i understand but but then

1917
01:23:04,229 --> 01:23:02,480
you know if you're a doctor you know and

1918
01:23:05,830 --> 01:23:04,239
you help somebody well that's a great

1919
01:23:07,030 --> 01:23:05,840
thing well why don't you just offer your

1920
01:23:08,629 --> 01:23:07,040
services for free

1921
01:23:10,629 --> 01:23:08,639
you see what i'm seeing you that that

1922
01:23:12,950 --> 01:23:10,639
and that

1923
01:23:14,790 --> 01:23:12,960
that mindset quickly breaks down when

1924
01:23:16,229 --> 01:23:14,800
you when it comes to that person you ask

1925
01:23:17,669 --> 01:23:16,239
them what are they doing and say i'm a

1926
01:23:19,430 --> 01:23:17,679
mechanic well that's great

1927
01:23:20,709 --> 01:23:19,440
that helps a lot of people why don't you

1928
01:23:22,790 --> 01:23:20,719
just do it for free

1929
01:23:23,910 --> 01:23:22,800
you see what i mean the point here is

1930
01:23:26,070 --> 01:23:23,920
it's not that

1931
01:23:27,910 --> 01:23:26,080
you know if you hate what they're saying

1932
01:23:29,110 --> 01:23:27,920
let's say you know what bashar is saying

1933
01:23:31,750 --> 01:23:29,120
then of course you're gonna

1934
01:23:32,229 --> 01:23:31,760
pick that out as as one thing you know

1935
01:23:36,070 --> 01:23:32,239
to

1936
01:23:38,629 --> 01:23:36,080
point is

1937
01:23:39,430 --> 01:23:38,639
why shouldn't somebody get something you

1938
01:23:42,950 --> 01:23:39,440
know some

1939
01:23:44,950 --> 01:23:42,960
uh an exchange of some sorts for

1940
01:23:46,629 --> 01:23:44,960
efforts given you know the same way

1941
01:23:49,270 --> 01:23:46,639
bakers and doctors

1942
01:23:51,669 --> 01:23:49,280
and mechanics everyone they go to work

1943
01:23:53,669 --> 01:23:51,679
they provide the service they get

1944
01:23:55,510 --> 01:23:53,679
quote unquote some energy back in the

1945
01:23:57,990 --> 01:23:55,520
form of money so they can then

1946
01:23:59,750 --> 01:23:58,000
you know spend it on other things and so

1947
01:24:00,229 --> 01:23:59,760
i never understood that mindset that

1948
01:24:02,070 --> 01:24:00,239
just

1949
01:24:03,590 --> 01:24:02,080
oh this should be available to everybody

1950
01:24:06,070 --> 01:24:03,600
and put it out there for free and if you

1951
01:24:09,270 --> 01:24:06,080
don't you are a greedy person it's like

1952
01:24:11,750 --> 01:24:09,280
what you know anyway

1953
01:24:12,310 --> 01:24:11,760
so um but what i was gonna say is is i

1954
01:24:14,950 --> 01:24:12,320
watched

1955
01:24:16,310 --> 01:24:14,960
i have i found a lot of the early videos

1956
01:24:20,070 --> 01:24:16,320
like i think was that

1957
01:24:23,350 --> 01:24:20,080
83 maybe or 86 or something when he

1958
01:24:25,510 --> 01:24:23,360
you know still had you know quite quite

1959
01:24:27,270 --> 01:24:25,520
a lot more hair than he does now and and

1960
01:24:29,750 --> 01:24:27,280
it was very interesting to

1961
01:24:31,510 --> 01:24:29,760
to hear the the channeling evolution of

1962
01:24:33,350 --> 01:24:31,520
how much more high-pitched

1963
01:24:34,709 --> 01:24:33,360
he was channeling rashad and what he

1964
01:24:37,430 --> 01:24:34,719
does now i guess

1965
01:24:38,709 --> 01:24:37,440
if you are just you know believing that

1966
01:24:41,030 --> 01:24:38,719
it is an alien being

1967
01:24:42,229 --> 01:24:41,040
communicating through you then of course

1968
01:24:44,149 --> 01:24:42,239
you know over time you get

1969
01:24:45,669 --> 01:24:44,159
more practiced in and tuned in to their

1970
01:24:49,030 --> 01:24:45,679
energy so of course

1971
01:24:51,430 --> 01:24:49,040
it's just gonna it's gonna um change

1972
01:24:53,910 --> 01:24:51,440
into the voice and and the manner that

1973
01:24:55,270 --> 01:24:53,920
that he channels bashar now but what i

1974
01:24:57,350 --> 01:24:55,280
was gonna say earlier

1975
01:24:58,709 --> 01:24:57,360
um you know there were so many

1976
01:25:02,149 --> 01:24:58,719
experiences that i

1977
01:25:02,950 --> 01:25:02,159
i don't it depends on when i speak to a

1978
01:25:09,110 --> 01:25:02,960
person

1979
01:25:11,830 --> 01:25:09,120
they go that's how far i go with certain

1980
01:25:13,430 --> 01:25:11,840
experiences and even then since you

1981
01:25:14,390 --> 01:25:13,440
mentioned it and i know this might go

1982
01:25:16,950 --> 01:25:14,400
over somebody's

1983
01:25:17,830 --> 01:25:16,960
you know people's heads but a lot of the

1984
01:25:20,470 --> 01:25:17,840
experiences

1985
01:25:21,430 --> 01:25:20,480
eventually when i was driven to a

1986
01:25:24,830 --> 01:25:21,440
certain point

1987
01:25:26,870 --> 01:25:24,840
to where that truly it was like the most

1988
01:25:29,590 --> 01:25:26,880
terrifying realization

1989
01:25:31,590 --> 01:25:29,600
that i could ever come to which was that

1990
01:25:34,390 --> 01:25:31,600
there is no one else here

1991
01:25:35,430 --> 01:25:34,400
it's just simply me as this individual

1992
01:25:37,750 --> 01:25:35,440
of the whole

1993
01:25:40,149 --> 01:25:37,760
is trying to understand itself

1994
01:25:41,910 --> 01:25:40,159
reflecting things to itself and growing

1995
01:25:44,550 --> 01:25:41,920
and understanding from it

1996
01:25:45,669 --> 01:25:44,560
and in order to do that something has to

1997
01:25:47,830 --> 01:25:45,679
be created

1998
01:25:48,709 --> 01:25:47,840
from itself to have an interaction

1999
01:25:51,750 --> 01:25:48,719
otherwise

2000
01:25:55,110 --> 01:25:51,760
it would just be stillness you know

2001
01:25:56,310 --> 01:25:55,120
and i don't know if if you would agree

2002
01:25:58,870 --> 01:25:56,320
with what i'm saying

2003
01:26:00,709 --> 01:25:58,880
but there was something that was that

2004
01:26:02,149 --> 01:26:00,719
instilled such a fear in me that

2005
01:26:04,149 --> 01:26:02,159
you know i don't usually share with

2006
01:26:05,750 --> 01:26:04,159
people that often because

2007
01:26:07,510 --> 01:26:05,760
it's something that i'm trying to figure

2008
01:26:08,470 --> 01:26:07,520
out on my own and overcome on my own

2009
01:26:10,629 --> 01:26:08,480
before i can

2010
01:26:11,590 --> 01:26:10,639
talk about it in more great detail

2011
01:26:14,470 --> 01:26:11,600
because i don't want to

2012
01:26:15,990 --> 01:26:14,480
leave people hopeless you know it's like

2013
01:26:17,830 --> 01:26:16,000
that's why i went through what i did

2014
01:26:19,189 --> 01:26:17,840
before i could speak about certain

2015
01:26:23,110 --> 01:26:19,199
things but some things

2016
01:26:25,510 --> 01:26:23,120
i still have not been i guess

2017
01:26:26,310 --> 01:26:25,520
haven't overcome this great fear because

2018
01:26:29,510 --> 01:26:26,320
it is such

2019
01:26:32,550 --> 01:26:29,520
a fearful experience

2020
01:26:34,470 --> 01:26:32,560
you know because to to to realize like

2021
01:26:36,709 --> 01:26:34,480
you're just talking to yourself that's

2022
01:26:41,830 --> 01:26:36,719
all existence is

2023
01:26:46,229 --> 01:26:44,390
well the fear that you experience and

2024
01:26:47,030 --> 01:26:46,239
let me also say i've spent many many

2025
01:26:49,830 --> 01:26:47,040
many years

2026
01:26:50,790 --> 01:26:49,840
on my own personal development because

2027
01:26:52,950 --> 01:26:50,800
that's the game

2028
01:26:54,310 --> 01:26:52,960
that i mean that's where it's at is is

2029
01:26:57,669 --> 01:26:54,320
awakening waking

2030
01:26:59,669 --> 01:26:57,679
up to what you are and

2031
01:27:01,910 --> 01:26:59,679
i think what you're experiencing is

2032
01:27:04,229 --> 01:27:01,920
you're experiencing ego

2033
01:27:05,430 --> 01:27:04,239
and without getting into week that goes

2034
01:27:08,470 --> 01:27:05,440
on and on and on

2035
01:27:09,110 --> 01:27:08,480
the understanding what ego is and ego

2036
01:27:13,030 --> 01:27:09,120
has

2037
01:27:17,110 --> 01:27:13,040
function here

2038
01:27:19,030 --> 01:27:17,120
in the world that we see and really

2039
01:27:21,430 --> 01:27:19,040
uh for lack of a better word at this

2040
01:27:23,669 --> 01:27:21,440
point there's a portion of the mind that

2041
01:27:26,310 --> 01:27:23,679
is your personality and that is ego

2042
01:27:28,310 --> 01:27:26,320
and ego doesn't want you to discover

2043
01:27:29,510 --> 01:27:28,320
what you really are because once you do

2044
01:27:31,990 --> 01:27:29,520
that

2045
01:27:32,870 --> 01:27:32,000
then you don't need ego and depend on it

2046
01:27:36,470 --> 01:27:32,880
like you

2047
01:27:39,590 --> 01:27:36,480
you do now or you once did so ego

2048
01:27:42,149 --> 01:27:39,600
only operates out of fear and god

2049
01:27:42,950 --> 01:27:42,159
operates only out of love and puts you

2050
01:27:44,870 --> 01:27:42,960
in joy

2051
01:27:46,550 --> 01:27:44,880
and again when i say these things and i

2052
01:27:50,390 --> 01:27:46,560
know we're you know

2053
01:27:53,669 --> 01:27:50,400
and it really it really involves

2054
01:27:56,629 --> 01:27:53,679
what the uh for lack of better

2055
01:27:57,030 --> 01:27:56,639
label ets are doing and not all but many

2056
01:27:59,510 --> 01:27:57,040
of them

2057
01:28:02,310 --> 01:27:59,520
are here is to help us wake up to this

2058
01:28:05,669 --> 01:28:02,320
so the fear that you're experiencing

2059
01:28:06,149 --> 01:28:05,679
and everybody does is your ego trying to

2060
01:28:08,390 --> 01:28:06,159
tell you

2061
01:28:09,669 --> 01:28:08,400
there's nothing you know adam there's

2062
01:28:12,709 --> 01:28:09,679
nothing else here

2063
01:28:14,790 --> 01:28:12,719
your you know your your it once you

2064
01:28:16,070 --> 01:28:14,800
once you pass that's it you go into

2065
01:28:18,070 --> 01:28:16,080
nothingness

2066
01:28:19,270 --> 01:28:18,080
and when i said there's only one of us

2067
01:28:21,669 --> 01:28:19,280
here

2068
01:28:23,030 --> 01:28:21,679
i'm speaking in terms we are part of a

2069
01:28:27,830 --> 01:28:23,040
greater

2070
01:28:29,990 --> 01:28:27,840
for sake of this conversation and

2071
01:28:31,750 --> 01:28:30,000
brevity we'll just call it god now

2072
01:28:33,510 --> 01:28:31,760
there's a lot of misconceptions out

2073
01:28:36,310 --> 01:28:33,520
there about what that is and

2074
01:28:37,910 --> 01:28:36,320
some are obvious and some some are not

2075
01:28:41,110 --> 01:28:37,920
but

2076
01:28:44,629 --> 01:28:41,120
by by understanding how your ego works

2077
01:28:46,629 --> 01:28:44,639
and i will share uh have you ever heard

2078
01:28:49,750 --> 01:28:46,639
of a course in miracles

2079
01:28:51,510 --> 01:28:49,760
yes i mean i'm waiting for you to finish

2080
01:28:53,350 --> 01:28:51,520
i was what i was going to say i'm very

2081
01:28:55,669 --> 01:28:53,360
well aware of what you're talking about

2082
01:28:56,950 --> 01:28:55,679
but i was just saying it from the point

2083
01:29:00,950 --> 01:28:56,960
of view that

2084
01:29:02,870 --> 01:29:00,960
um there's there's uh

2085
01:29:04,870 --> 01:29:02,880
i haven't gone into the details to tell

2086
01:29:07,270 --> 01:29:04,880
you because i'm still trying to

2087
01:29:09,270 --> 01:29:07,280
come to a certain conclusion on my own

2088
01:29:11,590 --> 01:29:09,280
before i feel comfortable to go on and

2089
01:29:13,510 --> 01:29:11,600
just publicly be very blatant about it

2090
01:29:15,510 --> 01:29:13,520
as i have been with a lot of the other

2091
01:29:17,590 --> 01:29:15,520
experiences up to this point

2092
01:29:18,950 --> 01:29:17,600
you know but yes i know exactly what you

2093
01:29:20,550 --> 01:29:18,960
what you're talking about

2094
01:29:22,149 --> 01:29:20,560
um i'm sorry i didn't mean to interrupt

2095
01:29:22,870 --> 01:29:22,159
you but yeah it is it is very

2096
01:29:26,229 --> 01:29:22,880
interesting

2097
01:29:28,310 --> 01:29:26,239
uh to analyze that aspect of it

2098
01:29:29,430 --> 01:29:28,320
um but anyway i'll i'll just let you

2099
01:29:31,110 --> 01:29:29,440
finish with that and

2100
01:29:32,709 --> 01:29:31,120
beyond what i've already said i don't

2101
01:29:34,870 --> 01:29:32,719
want to go into you know

2102
01:29:36,310 --> 01:29:34,880
into more but i've been still kind of

2103
01:29:38,149 --> 01:29:36,320
going at it for

2104
01:29:40,390 --> 01:29:38,159
i wonder how long that's going to take

2105
01:29:43,510 --> 01:29:40,400
before i can officially speak on it

2106
01:29:44,870 --> 01:29:43,520
for myself that is yeah no i can i

2107
01:29:46,550 --> 01:29:44,880
can respect that i've been in that

2108
01:29:50,229 --> 01:29:46,560
position myself where i have been

2109
01:29:53,350 --> 01:29:50,239
um invited to go on as a

2110
01:29:54,470 --> 01:29:53,360
as myself to explain uh and discuss

2111
01:29:57,990 --> 01:29:54,480
certain things

2112
01:30:01,030 --> 01:29:58,000
experiences i've had ufos i've seen ufos

2113
01:30:03,510 --> 01:30:01,040
we've filmed ufos

2114
01:30:05,750 --> 01:30:03,520
you know the typical story and then i

2115
01:30:06,470 --> 01:30:05,760
know a lot more but i hesitate to say it

2116
01:30:08,950 --> 01:30:06,480
because

2117
01:30:09,990 --> 01:30:08,960
it's just it's just gonna get out there

2118
01:30:11,750 --> 01:30:10,000
however

2119
01:30:14,390 --> 01:30:11,760
i'll share one thing i can share with

2120
01:30:16,229 --> 01:30:14,400
you is i'm at the point now

2121
01:30:18,709 --> 01:30:16,239
where and i you know i would still

2122
01:30:19,350 --> 01:30:18,719
probably be a little bit reserved not as

2123
01:30:22,310 --> 01:30:19,360
much

2124
01:30:22,870 --> 01:30:22,320
but something that i find really helps

2125
01:30:25,110 --> 01:30:22,880
me now

2126
01:30:27,270 --> 01:30:25,120
both professionally and personally is

2127
01:30:27,990 --> 01:30:27,280
the idea of you know what the bottom

2128
01:30:31,510 --> 01:30:28,000
line is

2129
01:30:32,390 --> 01:30:31,520
i just don't care right meaning i don't

2130
01:30:36,550 --> 01:30:32,400
care what any

2131
01:30:37,350 --> 01:30:36,560
thinks that's their problem and i'm not

2132
01:30:38,790 --> 01:30:37,360
going to spend

2133
01:30:41,510 --> 01:30:38,800
i've been on shows where i've had to

2134
01:30:44,709 --> 01:30:41,520
almost debate people

2135
01:30:46,550 --> 01:30:44,719
about are ufos real and this was this

2136
01:30:50,310 --> 01:30:46,560
was some time back it's not

2137
01:30:53,910 --> 01:30:50,320
i haven't engaged this much lately

2138
01:30:57,510 --> 01:30:53,920
but when someone wants to go into a uh

2139
01:30:59,030 --> 01:30:57,520
debate on it is it real uh it gets to a

2140
01:31:01,030 --> 01:30:59,040
point where you know you're just wasting

2141
01:31:03,990 --> 01:31:01,040
your time so

2142
01:31:04,390 --> 01:31:04,000
i would say to everybody listening to

2143
01:31:07,270 --> 01:31:04,400
this

2144
01:31:07,750 --> 01:31:07,280
actually if i could share one thing with

2145
01:31:17,350 --> 01:31:07,760
you

2146
01:31:20,550 --> 01:31:17,360
that goes obviously we always look at

2147
01:31:22,870 --> 01:31:20,560
this this idea in the ufo field

2148
01:31:24,149 --> 01:31:22,880
of disclosure and you know when's the

2149
01:31:25,590 --> 01:31:24,159
government going to tell us and we're

2150
01:31:28,229 --> 01:31:25,600
all waiting with baited breath

2151
01:31:29,270 --> 01:31:28,239
hey you're looking at the government

2152
01:31:31,510 --> 01:31:29,280
saying

2153
01:31:32,629 --> 01:31:31,520
not you personally but people are

2154
01:31:34,390 --> 01:31:32,639
looking at the government

2155
01:31:35,669 --> 01:31:34,400
because they look to government as their

2156
01:31:38,870 --> 01:31:35,679
authority

2157
01:31:44,310 --> 01:31:38,880
no the lesson here right now is you

2158
01:31:46,870 --> 01:31:44,320
are your own authority no one else

2159
01:31:47,990 --> 01:31:46,880
so right right no i i agree but you know

2160
01:31:49,750 --> 01:31:48,000
there was some

2161
01:31:51,270 --> 01:31:49,760
it was interesting at the very very

2162
01:31:53,030 --> 01:31:51,280
beginning you know because

2163
01:31:55,590 --> 01:31:53,040
uh when i when i was starting out with

2164
01:31:58,310 --> 01:31:55,600
with ufo hub you know i was looking for

2165
01:31:59,830 --> 01:31:58,320
different people to just come kind of uh

2166
01:32:00,790 --> 01:31:59,840
see if they will be willing to come out

2167
01:32:02,390 --> 01:32:00,800
of their shelf

2168
01:32:04,310 --> 01:32:02,400
shell and it doesn't matter who it was

2169
01:32:07,350 --> 01:32:04,320
maybe people that i know from these

2170
01:32:08,229 --> 01:32:07,360
different ufo meetings um maybe you know

2171
01:32:10,229 --> 01:32:08,239
eventually

2172
01:32:12,229 --> 01:32:10,239
you know somebody more well known like

2173
01:32:14,550 --> 01:32:12,239
richard dolan and all of that

2174
01:32:16,310 --> 01:32:14,560
and talking about you know i mean this

2175
01:32:17,990 --> 01:32:16,320
is still a process that it takes

2176
01:32:19,590 --> 01:32:18,000
people some time i'm not i don't want to

2177
01:32:21,030 --> 01:32:19,600
put a limitation on because

2178
01:32:22,629 --> 01:32:21,040
i mean sometimes you can overcome it

2179
01:32:24,550 --> 01:32:22,639
quickly sometimes it takes

2180
01:32:26,070 --> 01:32:24,560
you years you know and i don't want to

2181
01:32:28,149 --> 01:32:26,080
you know put put a number

2182
01:32:29,669 --> 01:32:28,159
in your head that it has to take so long

2183
01:32:32,790 --> 01:32:29,679
i'm just saying that it took

2184
01:32:35,590 --> 01:32:32,800
you know a while back it took me

2185
01:32:37,030 --> 01:32:35,600
took me a while to also then get over

2186
01:32:37,750 --> 01:32:37,040
there and speaking about authority and

2187
01:32:39,270 --> 01:32:37,760
whatnot

2188
01:32:40,950 --> 01:32:39,280
when i started talking to these

2189
01:32:42,070 --> 01:32:40,960
different people that are wonderful

2190
01:32:44,229 --> 01:32:42,080
people you know and

2191
01:32:45,910 --> 01:32:44,239
and are very well known but at the end

2192
01:32:47,910 --> 01:32:45,920
of the day they were just

2193
01:32:49,510 --> 01:32:47,920
average joe's like you and i and

2194
01:32:51,669 --> 01:32:49,520
everyone else listening

2195
01:32:52,550 --> 01:32:51,679
you know that eventually just got into a

2196
01:32:54,790 --> 01:32:52,560
subject

2197
01:32:56,629 --> 01:32:54,800
and you know totally hardcore about it

2198
01:32:57,830 --> 01:32:56,639
and then just started talking about

2199
01:33:00,070 --> 01:32:57,840
what's on their mind

2200
01:33:02,070 --> 01:33:00,080
and other people found it valuable and

2201
01:33:04,070 --> 01:33:02,080
that's all it is at the end of the day

2202
01:33:05,750 --> 01:33:04,080
you know and of course they could find

2203
01:33:07,590 --> 01:33:05,760
an actual physical things like a

2204
01:33:08,229 --> 01:33:07,600
document or whatever that they can talk

2205
01:33:11,270 --> 01:33:08,239
about

2206
01:33:13,350 --> 01:33:11,280
interest

2207
01:33:15,189 --> 01:33:13,360
and basically speaking their mind out

2208
01:33:15,990 --> 01:33:15,199
loud and then more and more people just

2209
01:33:18,550 --> 01:33:16,000
wanted to

2210
01:33:19,669 --> 01:33:18,560
have them recorded and and speak about

2211
01:33:21,669 --> 01:33:19,679
it and next thing you know

2212
01:33:22,790 --> 01:33:21,679
they're looked up as an authority now of

2213
01:33:25,270 --> 01:33:22,800
course that's not to

2214
01:33:27,030 --> 01:33:25,280
um you know disparage them in any way

2215
01:33:28,950 --> 01:33:27,040
they're awesome with what it is that to

2216
01:33:29,910 --> 01:33:28,960
do but everyone else can get to that

2217
01:33:32,229 --> 01:33:29,920
point

2218
01:33:33,990 --> 01:33:32,239
you know everyone else should you know

2219
01:33:35,590 --> 01:33:34,000
really just go about

2220
01:33:37,430 --> 01:33:35,600
whatever it is i mean even if you're a

2221
01:33:38,870 --> 01:33:37,440
painter then just be the best painter

2222
01:33:40,709 --> 01:33:38,880
you can possibly be the next thing you

2223
01:33:42,550 --> 01:33:40,719
know you'll have people come wanting to

2224
01:33:44,310 --> 01:33:42,560
you know take lessons from you because

2225
01:33:49,510 --> 01:33:44,320
they find it very awesome of

2226
01:33:54,950 --> 01:33:53,350
but anyway john yeah john sorry i was

2227
01:33:56,709 --> 01:33:54,960
looking at several names and

2228
01:33:58,070 --> 01:33:56,719
don't want to give you the wrong name

2229
01:33:59,750 --> 01:33:58,080
but is there anything else you would

2230
01:34:03,189 --> 01:33:59,760
like to share maybe um

2231
01:34:05,030 --> 01:34:03,199
some some other um uh

2232
01:34:06,310 --> 01:34:05,040
experience or just anything else

2233
01:34:10,070 --> 01:34:06,320
interesting that you found

2234
01:34:14,709 --> 01:34:12,390
um if you like i don't want to put you

2235
01:34:18,470 --> 01:34:14,719
on the spot that's fine

2236
01:34:19,750 --> 01:34:18,480
one thing before um i forget is uh are

2237
01:34:23,430 --> 01:34:19,760
you familiar with

2238
01:34:26,709 --> 01:34:23,440
uh farsight institute

2239
01:34:29,990 --> 01:34:26,719
um yes um we

2240
01:34:31,110 --> 01:34:30,000
i tried to way back when again i hate to

2241
01:34:33,430 --> 01:34:31,120
say it all the time but

2242
01:34:34,149 --> 01:34:33,440
i had both of his books and i tried to

2243
01:34:38,229 --> 01:34:34,159
get him

2244
01:34:38,709 --> 01:34:38,239
um the my boss now i was recommending to

2245
01:34:41,510 --> 01:34:38,719
her

2246
01:34:42,950 --> 01:34:41,520
for ozark to for having come and speak

2247
01:34:44,709 --> 01:34:42,960
for this weekend

2248
01:34:46,229 --> 01:34:44,719
you know when when this was initially

2249
01:34:48,629 --> 01:34:46,239
done and instead

2250
01:34:49,430 --> 01:34:48,639
he wrote back that he doesn't do much

2251
01:34:51,350 --> 01:34:49,440
speaking

2252
01:34:53,030 --> 01:34:51,360
anymore and he recommended one of his

2253
01:34:55,990 --> 01:34:53,040
students and she's going to be

2254
01:34:57,510 --> 01:34:56,000
um a speaker there this weekend for the

2255
01:35:00,790 --> 01:34:57,520
ozark conference

2256
01:35:02,629 --> 01:35:00,800
the reason i bring him up is um he

2257
01:35:05,830 --> 01:35:02,639
actually remote viewed

2258
01:35:08,950 --> 01:35:05,840
bashar right so

2259
01:35:10,950 --> 01:35:08,960
have you seen that i haven't um

2260
01:35:12,470 --> 01:35:10,960
if it wasn't in his two books i think

2261
01:35:15,030 --> 01:35:12,480
one book was um

2262
01:35:16,870 --> 01:35:15,040
cosmic explorers the other other one is

2263
01:35:20,070 --> 01:35:16,880
that cosmic

2264
01:35:22,070 --> 01:35:20,080
something if it wasn't in that then was

2265
01:35:25,109 --> 01:35:22,080
it a video

2266
01:35:29,030 --> 01:35:25,119
this was this was uh

2267
01:35:29,750 --> 01:35:29,040
in the last year he's got a uh he's got

2268
01:35:32,070 --> 01:35:29,760
a website

2269
01:35:34,470 --> 01:35:32,080
it's a member some things he'll publish

2270
01:35:35,189 --> 01:35:34,480
on youtube for free and some things you

2271
01:35:37,350 --> 01:35:35,199
pay

2272
01:35:39,350 --> 01:35:37,360
but i've seen the bashar remote viewing

2273
01:35:42,470 --> 01:35:39,360
it's quite it's quite interesting

2274
01:35:42,870 --> 01:35:42,480
please tell me more about it well

2275
01:35:45,590 --> 01:35:42,880
actually

2276
01:35:46,310 --> 01:35:45,600
if you have more info right uh well i

2277
01:35:49,510 --> 01:35:46,320
mean the just

2278
01:35:50,310 --> 01:35:49,520
the just if it is if you saw they remote

2279
01:35:54,830 --> 01:35:50,320
view

2280
01:35:57,669 --> 01:35:54,840
they do double blind so

2281
01:35:58,070 --> 01:35:57,679
or well that might have been a single

2282
01:36:01,350 --> 01:35:58,080
blind

2283
01:36:05,270 --> 01:36:01,360
uh remote view but um

2284
01:36:08,870 --> 01:36:05,280
it it is pretty positive to show

2285
01:36:10,950 --> 01:36:08,880
i mean it it really supports that

2286
01:36:14,470 --> 01:36:10,960
theralanka what he's bringing through

2287
01:36:15,830 --> 01:36:14,480
is is definitely a being that is

2288
01:36:18,149 --> 01:36:15,840
detached from daryl

2289
01:36:19,109 --> 01:36:18,159
and uh they get into it it's like it's

2290
01:36:21,030 --> 01:36:19,119
very fairly

2291
01:36:23,590 --> 01:36:21,040
lengthy but i would just put it this way

2292
01:36:25,830 --> 01:36:23,600
it actually supports

2293
01:36:27,750 --> 01:36:25,840
uh that daryl ankle is the real deal or

2294
01:36:29,109 --> 01:36:27,760
that there is some separate energy that

2295
01:36:30,950 --> 01:36:29,119
moves into him and of course

2296
01:36:32,310 --> 01:36:30,960
when they are remote viewing this they

2297
01:36:33,750 --> 01:36:32,320
don't even they have no idea what

2298
01:36:37,830 --> 01:36:33,760
they're remote viewing

2299
01:36:39,270 --> 01:36:37,840
daryl anka they're just given a target

2300
01:36:41,109 --> 01:36:39,280
it doesn't have a name it's just a

2301
01:36:41,910 --> 01:36:41,119
number and then they remote view it so i

2302
01:36:44,950 --> 01:36:41,920
would say it

2303
01:36:50,629 --> 01:36:44,960
actually supports

2304
01:36:53,990 --> 01:36:50,639
um bashar and darylankus

2305
01:36:55,830 --> 01:36:54,000
um i was thinking about it go ahead

2306
01:36:57,270 --> 01:36:55,840
no i was just saying right i mean it's

2307
01:37:02,070 --> 01:36:57,280
just basically confirms

2308
01:37:09,030 --> 01:37:06,149
um i will uh i'll share this um

2309
01:37:11,590 --> 01:37:09,040
personal experience this was years ago i

2310
01:37:17,189 --> 01:37:14,870
i was hired to do a

2311
01:37:18,709 --> 01:37:17,199
story on a gentleman who was claimed to

2312
01:37:22,629 --> 01:37:18,719
have uh

2313
01:37:22,950 --> 01:37:22,639
experiences and ufos on his property up

2314
01:37:28,870 --> 01:37:22,960
in

2315
01:37:31,189 --> 01:37:28,880
before now this this is some time ago

2316
01:37:35,430 --> 01:37:33,990
when i was putting together everything i

2317
01:37:38,870 --> 01:37:35,440
had on this story

2318
01:37:40,790 --> 01:37:38,880
to get ready to kind of plan and i was

2319
01:37:43,910 --> 01:37:40,800
i was going up there for actually a

2320
01:37:46,149 --> 01:37:43,920
number of weeks because i had convinced

2321
01:37:48,070 --> 01:37:46,159
the powers that be to let me go up there

2322
01:37:48,629 --> 01:37:48,080
and see if we could hang out on this

2323
01:37:50,790 --> 01:37:48,639
property

2324
01:37:52,629 --> 01:37:50,800
on this j if this was indeed the case

2325
01:37:55,830 --> 01:37:52,639
and they'd already been up there

2326
01:37:57,109 --> 01:37:55,840
and done one short shorter story

2327
01:38:00,070 --> 01:37:57,119
and i said well if you guys really

2328
01:38:02,870 --> 01:38:00,080
believe that these

2329
01:38:04,390 --> 01:38:02,880
um ufos are showing up on this this

2330
01:38:07,910 --> 01:38:04,400
gentleman's property

2331
01:38:09,830 --> 01:38:07,920
uh this is he was a farmer and a rancher

2332
01:38:12,229 --> 01:38:09,840
he had like uh i don't know something

2333
01:38:15,350 --> 01:38:12,239
like six seven hundred acres

2334
01:38:18,229 --> 01:38:15,360
and it was just north of uh laramie

2335
01:38:19,430 --> 01:38:18,239
wyoming and he claimed that these things

2336
01:38:22,629 --> 01:38:19,440
had been coming around

2337
01:38:24,629 --> 01:38:22,639
for a number of years and there had been

2338
01:38:27,830 --> 01:38:24,639
other witnesses

2339
01:38:30,950 --> 01:38:27,840
so i was going up to do the second show

2340
01:38:32,070 --> 01:38:30,960
and my pitch to the producers of series

2341
01:38:33,510 --> 01:38:32,080
producers was

2342
01:38:35,590 --> 01:38:33,520
why don't you let me go up there and

2343
01:38:38,950 --> 01:38:35,600
i'll see i'll hang out with a crew

2344
01:38:42,229 --> 01:38:38,960
and see if we can get anything on film

2345
01:38:44,550 --> 01:38:42,239
and then i'll just do a follow-up story

2346
01:38:46,629 --> 01:38:44,560
so we'll have we'll have a program and

2347
01:38:48,709 --> 01:38:46,639
they to my surprise

2348
01:38:50,950 --> 01:38:48,719
it was like yeah that's great idea want

2349
01:38:51,430 --> 01:38:50,960
to write us up a proposal and budget and

2350
01:38:55,350 --> 01:38:51,440
all that

2351
01:38:58,070 --> 01:38:55,360
so i said great and

2352
01:38:59,510 --> 01:38:58,080
while i was putting it all together uh

2353
01:39:00,070 --> 01:38:59,520
and got approval they got the green

2354
01:39:03,510 --> 01:39:00,080
light

2355
01:39:06,310 --> 01:39:03,520
okay you know here's the you know

2356
01:39:07,830 --> 01:39:06,320
you're approved and we put some dates

2357
01:39:12,310 --> 01:39:07,840
together

2358
01:39:15,270 --> 01:39:12,320
and so i remember sitting in my office

2359
01:39:16,629 --> 01:39:15,280
and thinking to myself so i've got all

2360
01:39:19,189 --> 01:39:16,639
this information

2361
01:39:19,750 --> 01:39:19,199
i have a i have a psychological profile

2362
01:39:22,870 --> 01:39:19,760
in from

2363
01:39:25,990 --> 01:39:22,880
of the individual i have um he

2364
01:39:29,430 --> 01:39:26,000
actually was working with a um

2365
01:39:31,510 --> 01:39:29,440
psychologist up there uh

2366
01:39:33,669 --> 01:39:31,520
and then he was working with um leo

2367
01:39:35,350 --> 01:39:33,679
sprinkle who was

2368
01:39:38,149 --> 01:39:35,360
who is i think he's still around

2369
01:39:40,550 --> 01:39:38,159
actually and he's at the university of

2370
01:39:42,390 --> 01:39:40,560
wyoming at laramie and he worked with

2371
01:39:45,669 --> 01:39:42,400
kant he was one of the first guys to

2372
01:39:49,350 --> 01:39:45,679
work with contactees

2373
01:39:54,310 --> 01:39:49,360
and as i was sitting

2374
01:39:56,229 --> 01:39:54,320
and i i i knew i i was pretty

2375
01:39:57,510 --> 01:39:56,239
sure certain that this was a real story

2376
01:39:59,590 --> 01:39:57,520
it was a real story i didn't think the

2377
01:40:01,590 --> 01:39:59,600
guy was making it up and then

2378
01:40:04,149 --> 01:40:01,600
i'd worked on another television show

2379
01:40:06,629 --> 01:40:04,159
where uh

2380
01:40:08,070 --> 01:40:06,639
in wyoming another gentleman a few years

2381
01:40:11,430 --> 01:40:08,080
ago had had an experience

2382
01:40:13,990 --> 01:40:11,440
and it was in it was in the news uh

2383
01:40:14,790 --> 01:40:14,000
i think it was out of uh rawlings

2384
01:40:17,030 --> 01:40:14,800
wyoming

2385
01:40:19,270 --> 01:40:17,040
and it was it was in it was in the

2386
01:40:23,109 --> 01:40:19,280
papers it was a fairly large story dr

2387
01:40:23,830 --> 01:40:23,119
heineck uh had gotten involved with it i

2388
01:40:26,870 --> 01:40:23,840
believe

2389
01:40:28,550 --> 01:40:26,880
and there were it was

2390
01:40:29,910 --> 01:40:28,560
pretty involved itself and it made that

2391
01:40:31,910 --> 01:40:29,920
it made the news so

2392
01:40:34,470 --> 01:40:31,920
and and i looked at a map to see how far

2393
01:40:37,189 --> 01:40:34,480
that incident was from

2394
01:40:37,590 --> 01:40:37,199
uh where where i was going and it was i

2395
01:40:40,229 --> 01:40:37,600
think

2396
01:40:42,790 --> 01:40:40,239
uh you know as far as the crow flies in

2397
01:40:45,590 --> 01:40:42,800
a straight line it was something like uh

2398
01:40:48,830 --> 01:40:45,600
you know 60 70 miles 80 miles and i said

2399
01:40:53,669 --> 01:40:51,830
so when i was sitting there

2400
01:40:55,990 --> 01:40:53,679
figuring how am i gonna how am i gonna

2401
01:40:58,390 --> 01:40:56,000
do this and we got a motor home

2402
01:40:59,430 --> 01:40:58,400
and we were gonna sit up on the property

2403
01:41:02,870 --> 01:40:59,440
and

2404
01:41:06,790 --> 01:41:02,880
uh hang out you know almost 24

2405
01:41:10,709 --> 01:41:06,800
7 for multiple weeks

2406
01:41:11,510 --> 01:41:10,719
and i sat there and i said to myself you

2407
01:41:16,629 --> 01:41:11,520
know

2408
01:41:19,590 --> 01:41:18,149
difficult to come up with but back in

2409
01:41:21,430 --> 01:41:19,600
the day i think it was pretty novel and

2410
01:41:22,629 --> 01:41:21,440
i said you know i need to go find a good

2411
01:41:26,070 --> 01:41:22,639
psychic

2412
01:41:29,510 --> 01:41:26,080
know tell me if she

2413
01:41:32,790 --> 01:41:29,520
or he can hit on anything so

2414
01:41:36,070 --> 01:41:32,800
having used psychics before and

2415
01:41:39,030 --> 01:41:36,080
on different television shows and um

2416
01:41:39,430 --> 01:41:39,040
who predicted certain events that we

2417
01:41:42,629 --> 01:41:39,440
knew

2418
01:41:46,229 --> 01:41:42,639
that that were that happened

2419
01:41:48,149 --> 01:41:46,239
um a friend of mine actually recommended

2420
01:41:51,750 --> 01:41:48,159
somebody

2421
01:41:53,990 --> 01:41:51,760
so i called this particular individual

2422
01:41:55,830 --> 01:41:54,000
and i did not tell i gave her my name i

2423
01:41:57,990 --> 01:41:55,840
didn't tell her

2424
01:41:59,430 --> 01:41:58,000
what i was doing but i just said well

2425
01:42:02,870 --> 01:41:59,440
i'm go i'm going i'm

2426
01:42:06,310 --> 01:42:02,880
i'm doing a story and i'd like to know

2427
01:42:09,350 --> 01:42:06,320
if what you might be able to

2428
01:42:10,709 --> 01:42:09,360
can you get from it i don't even

2429
01:42:14,790 --> 01:42:10,719
i don't even know if i told her it was

2430
01:42:16,470 --> 01:42:14,800
television related so we uh i went to

2431
01:42:19,990 --> 01:42:16,480
her house one night

2432
01:42:23,109 --> 01:42:20,000
and um had had my questions and i

2433
01:42:26,390 --> 01:42:23,119
even brought some maps of wyoming

2434
01:42:27,510 --> 01:42:26,400
and some other things and um she didn't

2435
01:42:29,669 --> 01:42:27,520
want to know anything

2436
01:42:30,550 --> 01:42:29,679
she was she goes don't tell me anything

2437
01:42:33,669 --> 01:42:30,560
that's fine

2438
01:42:35,669 --> 01:42:33,679
uh and we started and she started

2439
01:42:37,910 --> 01:42:35,679
describing

2440
01:42:39,430 --> 01:42:37,920
she says well you're and she didn't know

2441
01:42:41,669 --> 01:42:39,440
i was going to wyoming or anything i

2442
01:42:44,470 --> 01:42:41,679
didn't show her the maps at that point

2443
01:42:45,030 --> 01:42:44,480
she said well i i see a person who he's

2444
01:42:46,950 --> 01:42:45,040
not like

2445
01:42:49,189 --> 01:42:46,960
her words were he's not a city slicker

2446
01:42:52,470 --> 01:42:49,199
he's like wearing overalls and

2447
01:42:55,669 --> 01:42:52,480
he looks like a he looks like a rancher

2448
01:42:56,870 --> 01:42:55,679
or something and he he and then she

2449
01:42:58,709 --> 01:42:56,880
started

2450
01:43:01,189 --> 01:42:58,719
hitting on certain things that i knew

2451
01:43:05,030 --> 01:43:01,199
she was tagging

2452
01:43:07,830 --> 01:43:05,040
with what i was doing and so

2453
01:43:09,990 --> 01:43:07,840
she got a lot of she got a lot she said

2454
01:43:13,030 --> 01:43:10,000
a lot of things that

2455
01:43:14,070 --> 01:43:13,040
were very um confirming but she never

2456
01:43:17,109 --> 01:43:14,080
said ufo

2457
01:43:18,870 --> 01:43:17,119
or these are beings

2458
01:43:20,229 --> 01:43:18,880
and i just let her talk until she was

2459
01:43:21,030 --> 01:43:20,239
pretty much spent didn't have anything

2460
01:43:24,229 --> 01:43:21,040
more to say

2461
01:43:27,430 --> 01:43:24,239
and that's when i said uh

2462
01:43:29,430 --> 01:43:27,440
well i'm going up there a gentleman's

2463
01:43:31,030 --> 01:43:29,440
been having some strange experiences on

2464
01:43:33,850 --> 01:43:31,040
his land

2465
01:43:35,109 --> 01:43:33,860
and they said

2466
01:43:37,350 --> 01:43:35,119
[Music]

2467
01:43:39,750 --> 01:43:37,360
then i said and he claims that he's

2468
01:43:41,030 --> 01:43:39,760
seeing you know odd things on his land

2469
01:43:45,189 --> 01:43:41,040
and

2470
01:43:47,350 --> 01:43:45,199
that

2471
01:43:48,950 --> 01:43:47,360
and i had my critical mind at the time i

2472
01:43:52,709 --> 01:43:48,960
was on i

2473
01:43:55,990 --> 01:43:52,719
i was you know uh i was listening

2474
01:43:56,950 --> 01:43:56,000
and i've had this all recorded and i

2475
01:44:00,709 --> 01:43:56,960
said uh she

2476
01:44:02,870 --> 01:44:00,719
she i said well it's about a guy having

2477
01:44:03,669 --> 01:44:02,880
these these strange experiences up there

2478
01:44:05,430 --> 01:44:03,679
and there's

2479
01:44:06,709 --> 01:44:05,440
maybe these being there's some beings

2480
01:44:09,030 --> 01:44:06,719
involved and then she

2481
01:44:11,510 --> 01:44:09,040
as soon as i said that like everything

2482
01:44:13,430 --> 01:44:11,520
all the dots connected for her

2483
01:44:14,790 --> 01:44:13,440
and she said she looked at me and she

2484
01:44:17,910 --> 01:44:14,800
said that's it that's

2485
01:44:20,470 --> 01:44:17,920
it he's having visitations

2486
01:44:21,109 --> 01:44:20,480
and they're they're actually happening

2487
01:44:25,030 --> 01:44:21,119
and she would

2488
01:44:29,189 --> 01:44:25,040
she went into all kinds of um

2489
01:44:31,350 --> 01:44:29,199
discussion hang on just say

2490
01:44:34,790 --> 01:44:31,360
okay i got my dog in here he's got he

2491
01:44:36,790 --> 01:44:34,800
brought his bone in oh i see

2492
01:44:38,390 --> 01:44:36,800
that was that's what the noise was uh

2493
01:44:39,830 --> 01:44:38,400
please hold that train of thought real

2494
01:44:40,870 --> 01:44:39,840
quick i just want to remind everyone

2495
01:44:44,149 --> 01:44:40,880
else watching

2496
01:44:47,430 --> 01:44:44,159
that um if you you can join us

2497
01:44:51,030 --> 01:44:47,440
on telegram and simply go to

2498
01:44:52,390 --> 01:44:51,040
find a ufo hub group and join the voice

2499
01:44:55,109 --> 01:44:52,400
chat and

2500
01:44:56,550 --> 01:44:55,119
when john and i have concluded if you're

2501
01:45:00,390 --> 01:44:56,560
there and you would like to speak

2502
01:45:02,790 --> 01:45:00,400
you know i'll bring you in otherwise

2503
01:45:03,669 --> 01:45:02,800
john and i will keep on chatting until

2504
01:45:05,270 --> 01:45:03,679
um

2505
01:45:07,830 --> 01:45:05,280
one of us gets tired and i think it's

2506
01:45:11,109 --> 01:45:07,840
gonna be me first

2507
01:45:14,149 --> 01:45:11,119
so i'm sorry john go ahead so

2508
01:45:18,950 --> 01:45:16,870
she's so she she looked at me and it was

2509
01:45:21,350 --> 01:45:18,960
like like i said all these dots

2510
01:45:23,270 --> 01:45:21,360
i just got this image that all these

2511
01:45:23,669 --> 01:45:23,280
dots came together for her and she said

2512
01:45:25,590 --> 01:45:23,679
that's

2513
01:45:27,030 --> 01:45:25,600
it and she said he's having these

2514
01:45:30,070 --> 01:45:27,040
experiences it's

2515
01:45:32,470 --> 01:45:30,080
it's it's uh it's it's a real

2516
01:45:33,590 --> 01:45:32,480
it's real he's really having these

2517
01:45:36,550 --> 01:45:33,600
experiences

2518
01:45:37,750 --> 01:45:36,560
and then she said uh there were a lot of

2519
01:45:38,390 --> 01:45:37,760
things that were discussed but one of

2520
01:45:40,550 --> 01:45:38,400
the things she

2521
01:45:41,510 --> 01:45:40,560
said was there's someone that knows more

2522
01:45:43,189 --> 01:45:41,520
than he does

2523
01:45:45,189 --> 01:45:43,199
up there and you need to find that

2524
01:45:48,070 --> 01:45:45,199
person

2525
01:45:49,669 --> 01:45:48,080
and i said well who would that be she

2526
01:45:51,669 --> 01:45:49,679
goes i don't know but he feels native

2527
01:45:53,510 --> 01:45:51,679
american she feels indian to me

2528
01:45:55,750 --> 01:45:53,520
and you need to find that person and

2529
01:45:57,750 --> 01:45:55,760
then she went on talking more and more

2530
01:45:59,750 --> 01:45:57,760
about the event and then i remember one

2531
01:46:01,990 --> 01:45:59,760
thing that scared the heck out of me

2532
01:46:03,830 --> 01:46:02,000
actually at the time and then she said

2533
01:46:06,790 --> 01:46:03,840
to she stopped

2534
01:46:08,390 --> 01:46:06,800
and she looked at me kind of in a in a

2535
01:46:13,189 --> 01:46:08,400
phased

2536
01:46:14,790 --> 01:46:13,199
way and she said why do you think

2537
01:46:16,629 --> 01:46:14,800
and she was kind of half there and half

2538
01:46:17,270 --> 01:46:16,639
not and she said why do you think this

2539
01:46:20,790 --> 01:46:17,280
has been so

2540
01:46:24,070 --> 01:46:20,800
easy for you to put this this

2541
01:46:26,070 --> 01:46:24,080
project together she says it's been

2542
01:46:27,669 --> 01:46:26,080
it came together pretty easily didn't it

2543
01:46:29,270 --> 01:46:27,679
now i looked at her and i had never

2544
01:46:30,229 --> 01:46:29,280
thought about that actually and i said

2545
01:46:34,390 --> 01:46:30,239
well

2546
01:46:36,149 --> 01:46:34,400
yes it yes it has actually and she goes

2547
01:46:38,830 --> 01:46:36,159
they've they're helping you they want

2548
01:46:43,750 --> 01:46:41,990
right so so you can imagine i was like

2549
01:46:45,669 --> 01:46:43,760
yeah right i mean part of my

2550
01:46:47,109 --> 01:46:45,679
my critical mind jumped right in and

2551
01:46:51,109 --> 01:46:47,119
said yeah sure

2552
01:46:52,629 --> 01:46:51,119
but um i i and then she went on explain

2553
01:46:53,510 --> 01:46:52,639
some things she said you've got to find

2554
01:46:56,229 --> 01:46:53,520
the indian

2555
01:46:58,390 --> 01:46:56,239
and that's just the very beginning of it

2556
01:46:59,990 --> 01:46:58,400
i ended up

2557
01:47:03,350 --> 01:47:00,000
she said they will show themselves to

2558
01:47:06,550 --> 01:47:03,360
you you will see them

2559
01:47:08,550 --> 01:47:06,560
uh and it's going to be a little

2560
01:47:11,669 --> 01:47:08,560
different than you expect but

2561
01:47:15,270 --> 01:47:11,679
uh just you know be

2562
01:47:17,270 --> 01:47:15,280
be ready be aware be awake so uh

2563
01:47:18,390 --> 01:47:17,280
you know i can go on and on and not try

2564
01:47:22,790 --> 01:47:18,400
to

2565
01:47:26,149 --> 01:47:22,800
of that

2566
01:47:30,070 --> 01:47:26,159
was i did eventually find the indian

2567
01:47:32,070 --> 01:47:30,080
right uh he and um

2568
01:47:34,390 --> 01:47:32,080
he told me he was actually someone who's

2569
01:47:37,669 --> 01:47:34,400
fairly was fairly well known

2570
01:47:39,910 --> 01:47:37,679
in the the public and i

2571
01:47:41,510 --> 01:47:39,920
i didn't meet him while i was in wyoming

2572
01:47:43,910 --> 01:47:41,520
i met him

2573
01:47:45,990 --> 01:47:43,920
kind of synchronistic events had to lead

2574
01:47:48,070 --> 01:47:46,000
me somewhere else to find the guy but i

2575
01:47:49,189 --> 01:47:48,080
eventually did and he told me many many

2576
01:47:50,870 --> 01:47:49,199
many things

2577
01:47:52,310 --> 01:47:50,880
because he's met with he met with these

2578
01:47:56,310 --> 01:47:52,320
beings i did see

2579
01:48:00,310 --> 01:47:56,320
i saw my cameraman and i did see

2580
01:48:03,430 --> 01:48:00,320
the see these um oh

2581
01:48:06,070 --> 01:48:03,440
we never saw like a ship as more it was

2582
01:48:06,950 --> 01:48:06,080
like something was enveloped in a plasma

2583
01:48:10,229 --> 01:48:06,960
else cap

2584
01:48:12,790 --> 01:48:10,239
i'll describe it as a plasma field and

2585
01:48:13,910 --> 01:48:12,800
and it was enveloped in this and we saw

2586
01:48:16,149 --> 01:48:13,920
that and then

2587
01:48:18,310 --> 01:48:16,159
we there's a whole nother we actually

2588
01:48:23,189 --> 01:48:18,320
got physical evidence

2589
01:48:30,470 --> 01:48:26,550
we got photos we didn't take them the

2590
01:48:34,550 --> 01:48:33,910
and the film that he ex asked me to

2591
01:48:38,629 --> 01:48:34,560
develop

2592
01:48:40,470 --> 01:48:38,639
but there were physical holes

2593
01:48:42,149 --> 01:48:40,480
in the film and the physical emulsion

2594
01:48:43,590 --> 01:48:42,159
this was slide film back in the day

2595
01:48:46,390 --> 01:48:43,600
before digital

2596
01:48:47,270 --> 01:48:46,400
right and where these objects appeared

2597
01:48:49,350 --> 01:48:47,280
in the picture

2598
01:48:50,709 --> 01:48:49,360
there were literally physic i took these

2599
01:48:53,030 --> 01:48:50,719
phone i took these

2600
01:48:54,550 --> 01:48:53,040
films to the jet propulsion laboratory

2601
01:48:56,470 --> 01:48:54,560
in pasadena

2602
01:48:57,830 --> 01:48:56,480
where the voi at that time voyager the

2603
01:49:00,790 --> 01:48:57,840
voyager spacecraft

2604
01:49:02,229 --> 01:49:00,800
had been launched and i being with i was

2605
01:49:04,149 --> 01:49:02,239
working for a network at that time

2606
01:49:05,430 --> 01:49:04,159
television network so i had entree there

2607
01:49:09,910 --> 01:49:05,440
very very nice

2608
01:49:10,950 --> 01:49:09,920
uh tour of the facility and

2609
01:49:12,310 --> 01:49:10,960
they were willing to look at the

2610
01:49:14,070 --> 01:49:12,320
photographs but they didn't they weren't

2611
01:49:15,510 --> 01:49:14,080
going to go on televisions

2612
01:49:17,189 --> 01:49:15,520
because they just said we don't believe

2613
01:49:18,950 --> 01:49:17,199
in ufos but we'll take a look at your

2614
01:49:21,589 --> 01:49:18,960
photographs if you want us to and

2615
01:49:22,470 --> 01:49:21,599
from that analysis they came up with

2616
01:49:24,390 --> 01:49:22,480
holes that were

2617
01:49:26,390 --> 01:49:24,400
physical holes were burnt and the

2618
01:49:30,310 --> 01:49:26,400
emulsion was blistered

2619
01:49:33,109 --> 01:49:30,320
from these objects that were uh

2620
01:49:34,629 --> 01:49:33,119
taking pictures of in the sky so there

2621
01:49:37,270 --> 01:49:34,639
was physical evidence to that

2622
01:49:41,830 --> 01:49:37,280
and um anyway the show went on this is

2623
01:49:43,589 --> 01:49:41,840
again this is back in 1980

2624
01:49:45,109 --> 01:49:43,599
it was it was pretty dramatic it really

2625
01:49:48,310 --> 01:49:45,119
changed it changed my life

2626
01:49:51,510 --> 01:49:48,320
certainly uh the the experience

2627
01:49:53,669 --> 01:49:51,520
there or you're talking about having

2628
01:49:56,629 --> 01:49:53,679
talking to us to to a psychic and having

2629
01:50:00,229 --> 01:49:56,639
those validations

2630
01:50:01,189 --> 01:50:00,239
so you know i'm not easily i'm a pretty

2631
01:50:03,669 --> 01:50:01,199
practical guy

2632
01:50:05,990 --> 01:50:03,679
i'm oh i'm very open i'm open but if i

2633
01:50:08,070 --> 01:50:06,000
see any evidence to lead to the contrary

2634
01:50:09,589 --> 01:50:08,080
of what i'm being told then or or does

2635
01:50:11,589 --> 01:50:09,599
it seem quite right then

2636
01:50:13,750 --> 01:50:11,599
then i will dig into it further and i

2637
01:50:15,510 --> 01:50:13,760
will

2638
01:50:16,790 --> 01:50:15,520
especially as a journalist you if you're

2639
01:50:18,070 --> 01:50:16,800
going to put something out there you

2640
01:50:21,589 --> 01:50:18,080
have to back it up so

2641
01:50:23,270 --> 01:50:21,599
right you know um

2642
01:50:24,709 --> 01:50:23,280
well john thank you very much for for

2643
01:50:27,430 --> 01:50:24,719
sharing that um

2644
01:50:29,589 --> 01:50:27,440
there's someone else also in in the room

2645
01:50:32,149 --> 01:50:29,599
uh sean that i wanted to see if he

2646
01:50:34,070 --> 01:50:32,159
just wanted to say if uh wanted to share

2647
01:50:34,709 --> 01:50:34,080
a story please make sure to raise your

2648
01:50:37,030 --> 01:50:34,719
hand so

2649
01:50:38,790 --> 01:50:37,040
that way i know you're wanting to speak

2650
01:50:41,510 --> 01:50:38,800
instead of just listening and

2651
01:50:42,629 --> 01:50:41,520
it looks like nathan is back so also if

2652
01:50:44,629 --> 01:50:42,639
nathan if you have

2653
01:50:46,709 --> 01:50:44,639
something you would like to share also

2654
01:50:48,149 --> 01:50:46,719
just raise your hand in the in the voice

2655
01:50:50,790 --> 01:50:48,159
chat that way i know

2656
01:50:53,109 --> 01:50:50,800
um you guys would like to interact

2657
01:50:55,830 --> 01:50:53,119
instead of just listening as i've said

2658
01:50:57,669 --> 01:50:55,840
but uh um yeah john on on your end you

2659
01:50:59,270 --> 01:50:57,679
know it's very interesting there was

2660
01:51:01,510 --> 01:50:59,280
it's one of those things that when you

2661
01:51:03,189 --> 01:51:01,520
find uh it sounds so weird to say when

2662
01:51:05,030 --> 01:51:03,199
you find a good psychic you hold on to

2663
01:51:07,669 --> 01:51:05,040
him and don't let go

2664
01:51:08,870 --> 01:51:07,679
because i know a very that's become a

2665
01:51:10,070 --> 01:51:08,880
very good friend of mine and i

2666
01:51:13,030 --> 01:51:10,080
interviewed her

2667
01:51:14,709 --> 01:51:13,040
um actually there's both of them one of

2668
01:51:17,669 --> 01:51:14,719
them is uh

2669
01:51:19,350 --> 01:51:17,679
cat i call up it's catherine hughes and

2670
01:51:22,550 --> 01:51:19,360
the other one is uh

2671
01:51:24,790 --> 01:51:22,560
justine alessi and she does tarot where

2672
01:51:27,430 --> 01:51:24,800
the other one does more of uh

2673
01:51:28,550 --> 01:51:27,440
psychic reading and what's really cool

2674
01:51:33,030 --> 01:51:28,560
was

2675
01:51:35,589 --> 01:51:33,040
i don't have to say anything

2676
01:51:37,030 --> 01:51:35,599
i just go sit down and they literally

2677
01:51:38,870 --> 01:51:37,040
lay everything out

2678
01:51:40,870 --> 01:51:38,880
and that's when you know they're they're

2679
01:51:43,669 --> 01:51:40,880
tapped into what it is that

2680
01:51:44,390 --> 01:51:43,679
you know you what you would like to know

2681
01:51:46,709 --> 01:51:44,400
because

2682
01:51:47,990 --> 01:51:46,719
very rarely and actually i have to say

2683
01:51:49,910 --> 01:51:48,000
i've i personally just

2684
01:51:51,430 --> 01:51:49,920
always been lucky to always talk to

2685
01:51:54,870 --> 01:51:51,440
somebody that has

2686
01:51:57,910 --> 01:51:54,880
um some level of skill but uh

2687
01:52:00,310 --> 01:51:57,920
some it becomes very obvious that

2688
01:52:01,270 --> 01:52:00,320
they were just born to do this and one

2689
01:52:04,310 --> 01:52:01,280
particular one

2690
01:52:04,870 --> 01:52:04,320
um justine alessi she does a tarot card

2691
01:52:07,910 --> 01:52:04,880
reading

2692
01:52:10,950 --> 01:52:07,920
and um i my wife and i would talk to her

2693
01:52:11,589 --> 01:52:10,960
at least one well not at least once a

2694
01:52:14,950 --> 01:52:11,599
year

2695
01:52:18,390 --> 01:52:14,960
and uh before my wife and i met she had

2696
01:52:19,510 --> 01:52:18,400
told her about me and that that we would

2697
01:52:21,430 --> 01:52:19,520
eventually meet

2698
01:52:23,350 --> 01:52:21,440
and that she kind of knows me but not

2699
01:52:26,229 --> 01:52:23,360
directly and all these other things

2700
01:52:27,350 --> 01:52:26,239
which was confusing her you know but and

2701
01:52:30,550 --> 01:52:27,360
then later when

2702
01:52:31,270 --> 01:52:30,560
when when my wife and i we did meet uh

2703
01:52:33,109 --> 01:52:31,280
then we

2704
01:52:34,629 --> 01:52:33,119
we both went to talk to her and she

2705
01:52:40,229 --> 01:52:34,639
basically

2706
01:52:42,550 --> 01:52:40,239
told us about the the son we're gonna

2707
01:52:44,709 --> 01:52:42,560
have and the daughter afterwards

2708
01:52:46,149 --> 01:52:44,719
and um you know all these things

2709
01:52:48,709 --> 01:52:46,159
happening at specific

2710
01:52:49,750 --> 01:52:48,719
dates and and times which was just

2711
01:52:53,189 --> 01:52:49,760
amazing because

2712
01:52:55,589 --> 01:52:53,199
usually most most would depends on their

2713
01:52:57,669 --> 01:52:55,599
skill level would give you a vague idea

2714
01:52:59,030 --> 01:52:57,679
you know not necessarily i don't mean in

2715
01:53:01,270 --> 01:52:59,040
a bad way it's just that

2716
01:53:02,070 --> 01:53:01,280
sometimes probabilities are not always

2717
01:53:05,189 --> 01:53:02,080
certain

2718
01:53:07,109 --> 01:53:05,199
you know and so um but with justine

2719
01:53:07,669 --> 01:53:07,119
specifically i mean she just gets to the

2720
01:53:09,510 --> 01:53:07,679
point

2721
01:53:10,950 --> 01:53:09,520
and so does my friend kat hughes you

2722
01:53:14,550 --> 01:53:10,960
know catherine hughes because

2723
01:53:17,109 --> 01:53:14,560
the very first time i had an experience

2724
01:53:18,870 --> 01:53:17,119
or to talk to a psychic was her and this

2725
01:53:19,589 --> 01:53:18,880
was way back when when i started all

2726
01:53:22,310 --> 01:53:19,599
this

2727
01:53:23,189 --> 01:53:22,320
and i just sat there and she just laid

2728
01:53:26,470 --> 01:53:23,199
everything out

2729
01:53:28,550 --> 01:53:26,480
and i one interesting part was

2730
01:53:29,990 --> 01:53:28,560
i haven't told her that at that time you

2731
01:53:30,790 --> 01:53:30,000
know i just interviewed two of my

2732
01:53:33,430 --> 01:53:30,800
friends

2733
01:53:35,430 --> 01:53:33,440
and just by whatever happenstance i

2734
01:53:37,270 --> 01:53:35,440
would manage at that time to

2735
01:53:39,589 --> 01:53:37,280
get a hold of george nori and to have

2736
01:53:41,830 --> 01:53:39,599
him uh to interview him asking

2737
01:53:43,830 --> 01:53:41,840
to if he would be willing to talk to me

2738
01:53:47,270 --> 01:53:43,840
and he agreed and that was

2739
01:53:50,709 --> 01:53:47,280
like this whole you know it was this

2740
01:53:53,669 --> 01:53:50,719
mind it was this uh mindset changer

2741
01:53:54,070 --> 01:53:53,679
that i never went back to this oh i'm so

2742
01:53:56,870 --> 01:53:54,080
unsure

2743
01:53:58,870 --> 01:53:56,880
about myself blah blah blah the very

2744
01:54:00,790 --> 01:53:58,880
simple fact that he agreed to talk to me

2745
01:54:01,350 --> 01:54:00,800
just took all doubt out of my mind and

2746
01:54:02,870 --> 01:54:01,360
just

2747
01:54:04,709 --> 01:54:02,880
basically made me move forward with

2748
01:54:06,470 --> 01:54:04,719
confidence but what's interesting is

2749
01:54:08,149 --> 01:54:06,480
when i was talking to her

2750
01:54:09,510 --> 01:54:08,159
she just kind of looked off like she

2751
01:54:11,910 --> 01:54:09,520
usually does and

2752
01:54:13,350 --> 01:54:11,920
i can't i can't remember if i told her i

2753
01:54:15,350 --> 01:54:13,360
want to say that i didn't

2754
01:54:17,350 --> 01:54:15,360
but the response that she gave me was

2755
01:54:19,910 --> 01:54:17,360
interested she she laughed

2756
01:54:21,350 --> 01:54:19,920
and she said they're telling me that

2757
01:54:22,870 --> 01:54:21,360
you're going to interview many more

2758
01:54:25,910 --> 01:54:22,880
georgia nori's

2759
01:54:29,669 --> 01:54:25,920
you know and i just kind of look back

2760
01:54:31,430 --> 01:54:29,679
like how do you know you know and so

2761
01:54:33,350 --> 01:54:31,440
like i said what you know it sounds

2762
01:54:34,629 --> 01:54:33,360
silly to say but when you know you got a

2763
01:54:37,109 --> 01:54:34,639
good one you just

2764
01:54:38,870 --> 01:54:37,119
want to basically you know hold on to

2765
01:54:41,669 --> 01:54:38,880
them and just

2766
01:54:42,390 --> 01:54:41,679
you know but sometimes you know it can

2767
01:54:45,589 --> 01:54:42,400
get

2768
01:54:46,149 --> 01:54:45,599
you know we try at least once a year

2769
01:54:48,470 --> 01:54:46,159
maybe

2770
01:54:49,830 --> 01:54:48,480
once every two years or whatnot because

2771
01:54:51,669 --> 01:54:49,840
you want to live your life

2772
01:54:53,669 --> 01:54:51,679
not constantly going okay which steps

2773
01:54:54,709 --> 01:54:53,679
should i take next because then it takes

2774
01:54:56,870 --> 01:54:54,719
the fun out of it the

2775
01:54:59,030 --> 01:54:56,880
whole point is for you to decide and do

2776
01:54:59,990 --> 01:54:59,040
but it's fun at least on occasion to

2777
01:55:02,390 --> 01:55:00,000
just kind of

2778
01:55:05,350 --> 01:55:02,400
um go in and say hey what can you tell

2779
01:55:07,910 --> 01:55:05,360
me what's coming up

2780
01:55:08,390 --> 01:55:07,920
and uh so yeah again so nathan and sean

2781
01:55:12,629 --> 01:55:08,400
if you

2782
01:55:12,950 --> 01:55:12,639
or uh simply uh come on to talk to me

2783
01:55:16,709 --> 01:55:12,960
just

2784
01:55:19,189 --> 01:55:16,719
raise your hand and um then then i know

2785
01:55:21,030 --> 01:55:19,199
what your intentions are well john thank

2786
01:55:21,830 --> 01:55:21,040
you i'm going to go back to nathan just

2787
01:55:24,950 --> 01:55:21,840
to see

2788
01:55:26,870 --> 01:55:24,960
what he has to say but you know um

2789
01:55:28,709 --> 01:55:26,880
please sit tight you know if we're still

2790
01:55:29,830 --> 01:55:28,719
on you know i'll see if you want to come

2791
01:55:32,070 --> 01:55:29,840
back on but

2792
01:55:34,070 --> 01:55:32,080
i'm very grateful that you came on to

2793
01:55:35,350 --> 01:55:34,080
talk to me and to be part of this very

2794
01:55:37,430 --> 01:55:35,360
first open line

2795
01:55:38,950 --> 01:55:37,440
i'm hoping that i can just uh keep doing

2796
01:55:41,430 --> 01:55:38,960
this maybe once a week

2797
01:55:43,990 --> 01:55:41,440
and so uh to just give the opportunity

2798
01:55:46,229 --> 01:55:44,000
to more people to just chat

2799
01:55:47,830 --> 01:55:46,239
yeah sure good luck to you i'll stay on

2800
01:55:51,270 --> 01:55:47,840
for a little while i want to say

2801
01:55:54,550 --> 01:55:51,280
uh good luck for you to you

2802
01:55:56,950 --> 01:55:54,560
and thank you and continue it continue

2803
01:55:59,270 --> 01:55:56,960
it man it'll get stronger

2804
01:56:00,310 --> 01:55:59,280
thank you john i appreciate it thank you

2805
01:56:03,990 --> 01:56:00,320
yeah uh

2806
01:56:13,830 --> 01:56:04,000
i'm gonna go over to to nathan

2807
01:56:20,470 --> 01:56:17,669
okay um nathan can you hear me yeah hey

2808
01:56:22,070 --> 01:56:20,480
okay good deal yeah uh yeah there for a

2809
01:56:24,870 --> 01:56:22,080
second i thought maybe

2810
01:56:26,149 --> 01:56:24,880
yeah that was my bad my my client on my

2811
01:56:28,149 --> 01:56:26,159
computer crashed

2812
01:56:29,350 --> 01:56:28,159
it's no no problem at all i was just

2813
01:56:30,550 --> 01:56:29,360
wondering because i know i told you i

2814
01:56:33,750 --> 01:56:30,560
was going to come back to you and i was

2815
01:56:35,350 --> 01:56:33,760
like oh shoot i never did

2816
01:56:37,669 --> 01:56:35,360
well i caught the last part there

2817
01:56:39,270 --> 01:56:37,679
actually because i just got back on

2818
01:56:41,109 --> 01:56:39,280
and he was talking about psychics and i

2819
01:56:43,990 --> 01:56:41,119
really wanted to chime in there

2820
01:56:45,750 --> 01:56:44,000
um about one that um like you said you

2821
01:56:47,910 --> 01:56:45,760
really want to hold on to the one that

2822
01:56:49,350 --> 01:56:47,920
really like if you find one you really

2823
01:56:51,189 --> 01:56:49,360
want to hold on to that one then i did

2824
01:56:53,109 --> 01:56:51,199
for a while actually

2825
01:56:56,070 --> 01:56:53,119
um find one that was actually in my own

2826
01:56:58,709 --> 01:56:56,080
town which is very lucky

2827
01:57:01,350 --> 01:56:58,719
so a story i'll go into just to clarify

2828
01:57:05,109 --> 01:57:01,360
it goes into something that you actually

2829
01:57:06,470 --> 01:57:05,119
said um so the the person that's in my

2830
01:57:07,350 --> 01:57:06,480
own town is actually the one that my mom

2831
01:57:08,550 --> 01:57:07,360
goes to

2832
01:57:10,709 --> 01:57:08,560
and so a lot of the stuff that i've

2833
01:57:12,870 --> 01:57:10,719
learned from is from my mom's work

2834
01:57:14,550 --> 01:57:12,880
and my mom has gone through pretty much

2835
01:57:15,510 --> 01:57:14,560
just everything you can think of that's

2836
01:57:18,790 --> 01:57:15,520
been like

2837
01:57:19,830 --> 01:57:18,800
over 30 plus years of just research and

2838
01:57:22,870 --> 01:57:19,840
such

2839
01:57:25,350 --> 01:57:22,880
and so you know naturally

2840
01:57:25,910 --> 01:57:25,360
just by her interests my interests were

2841
01:57:28,709 --> 01:57:25,920
kind of

2842
01:57:30,149 --> 01:57:28,719
you know simultaneously hers so she

2843
01:57:31,270 --> 01:57:30,159
she's like hey you know you want to go

2844
01:57:32,709 --> 01:57:31,280
to this thing i'm like

2845
01:57:34,470 --> 01:57:32,719
you know first off i'm like nah i don't

2846
01:57:35,589 --> 01:57:34,480
know what this is you know she's she's

2847
01:57:38,390 --> 01:57:35,599
weird but

2848
01:57:39,109 --> 01:57:38,400
sorry but i don't want to curse on the

2849
01:57:42,149 --> 01:57:39,119
show but

2850
01:57:43,350 --> 01:57:42,159
uh the the it was really weird at first

2851
01:57:44,470 --> 01:57:43,360
i'm like okay you know i'll give it a

2852
01:57:45,990 --> 01:57:44,480
chance you know she was going to these

2853
01:57:48,149 --> 01:57:46,000
like spiritualist churches like

2854
01:57:49,430 --> 01:57:48,159
non-denominational it's like oh look a

2855
01:57:51,030 --> 01:57:49,440
lot of it just was

2856
01:57:52,790 --> 01:57:51,040
you know under under the guise of you

2857
01:57:54,790 --> 01:57:52,800
know just kind of community

2858
01:57:57,510 --> 01:57:54,800
and as i was starting to get into it

2859
01:57:59,589 --> 01:57:57,520
she's like oh so that's what that is

2860
01:58:00,870 --> 01:57:59,599
you know you know she was doing a lot of

2861
01:58:02,390 --> 01:58:00,880
things with reiki and

2862
01:58:04,070 --> 01:58:02,400
and and spiritual healings and stuff

2863
01:58:07,109 --> 01:58:04,080
like that and then she got into

2864
01:58:08,390 --> 01:58:07,119
um kind of channeling and and

2865
01:58:10,629 --> 01:58:08,400
interdimensional stuff

2866
01:58:12,310 --> 01:58:10,639
but it wasn't really specific so a lot

2867
01:58:13,109 --> 01:58:12,320
of it was just for healing and for reiki

2868
01:58:15,270 --> 01:58:13,119
reasons

2869
01:58:17,189 --> 01:58:15,280
but one thing that i wanted to talk

2870
01:58:20,149 --> 01:58:17,199
about was dolores cannon

2871
01:58:20,550 --> 01:58:20,159
and my mom got really deep into her work

2872
01:58:22,870 --> 01:58:20,560
and

2873
01:58:24,149 --> 01:58:22,880
it really moved me to think like all

2874
01:58:26,229 --> 01:58:24,159
this other stuff that kind of

2875
01:58:28,470 --> 01:58:26,239
really like answered my questions of

2876
01:58:31,510 --> 01:58:28,480
like why like at a young age

2877
01:58:33,270 --> 01:58:31,520
um really answered it for me was like

2878
01:58:34,790 --> 01:58:33,280
why are we here like why do i feel this

2879
01:58:35,910 --> 01:58:34,800
way like why do i feel different from

2880
01:58:38,310 --> 01:58:35,920
everyone else

2881
01:58:39,350 --> 01:58:38,320
and a lot of that was just from me being

2882
01:58:42,229 --> 01:58:39,360
curious

2883
01:58:42,709 --> 01:58:42,239
and my mom helping me out with that um

2884
01:58:44,229 --> 01:58:42,719
you know

2885
01:58:45,589 --> 01:58:44,239
answering some of those questions is

2886
01:58:45,910 --> 01:58:45,599
just not really like answering it for

2887
01:58:47,910 --> 01:58:45,920
her

2888
01:58:49,109 --> 01:58:47,920
or for me but like pouring in the right

2889
01:58:51,990 --> 01:58:49,119
direction

2890
01:58:53,510 --> 01:58:52,000
and so she got into dolores cannon i got

2891
01:58:54,709 --> 01:58:53,520
into the stuff that she was doing i was

2892
01:58:57,030 --> 01:58:54,719
going with her

2893
01:58:58,070 --> 01:58:57,040
to see the same psychic that she was

2894
01:59:00,149 --> 01:58:58,080
going to

2895
01:59:02,070 --> 01:59:00,159
and it really opened up my that world

2896
01:59:04,470 --> 01:59:02,080
for me in in a lot of that

2897
01:59:05,270 --> 01:59:04,480
and so with all these restrictions now

2898
01:59:07,030 --> 01:59:05,280
it's not really

2899
01:59:08,550 --> 01:59:07,040
well with the state of the world it's

2900
01:59:10,629 --> 01:59:08,560
not really happening anymore like i used

2901
01:59:13,189 --> 01:59:10,639
to go there pretty much every week

2902
01:59:13,830 --> 01:59:13,199
and uh it slowed down it tapered off and

2903
01:59:16,790 --> 01:59:13,840
then

2904
01:59:17,270 --> 01:59:16,800
kind of just was non-existent um but i

2905
01:59:19,430 --> 01:59:17,280
feel like

2906
01:59:20,629 --> 01:59:19,440
you know the time will come you know i

2907
01:59:23,109 --> 01:59:20,639
think she's still around

2908
01:59:23,750 --> 01:59:23,119
she's in her later years but uh of

2909
01:59:27,030 --> 01:59:23,760
course

2910
01:59:27,589 --> 01:59:27,040
it is the the psychic that oh i see my

2911
01:59:30,040 --> 01:59:27,599
comment

2912
01:59:31,510 --> 01:59:30,050
yeah and so the psychic

2913
01:59:34,629 --> 01:59:31,520
[Music]

2914
01:59:36,470 --> 01:59:34,639
had really like profound insights at

2915
01:59:39,589 --> 01:59:36,480
least for me because it was just so

2916
01:59:40,870 --> 01:59:39,599
new and so amazing that it really put me

2917
01:59:44,149 --> 01:59:40,880
on a springboard

2918
01:59:46,870 --> 01:59:44,159
to my later lives and where i am now so

2919
01:59:48,790 --> 01:59:46,880
i do agree with your sentiment right i

2920
01:59:50,790 --> 01:59:48,800
think it puts things in perspective that

2921
01:59:53,430 --> 01:59:50,800
if you had a little bit of doubt

2922
01:59:55,270 --> 01:59:53,440
then here's a person that by all means

2923
01:59:57,189 --> 01:59:55,280
should not know anything about you

2924
01:59:58,950 --> 01:59:57,199
and everything coming out of their mouth

2925
02:00:02,229 --> 01:59:58,960
should be as kind of

2926
02:00:03,270 --> 02:00:02,239
this fraudulent uh fishing for

2927
02:00:05,990 --> 02:00:03,280
information right

2928
02:00:06,709 --> 02:00:06,000
but when you have those that that really

2929
02:00:11,990 --> 02:00:06,719
just

2930
02:00:12,550 --> 02:00:12,000
dumbfounded i'm like i didn't tell them

2931
02:00:18,149 --> 02:00:12,560
anything

2932
02:00:21,669 --> 02:00:20,870
but yeah um i don't know if uh well

2933
02:00:25,109 --> 02:00:21,679
because

2934
02:00:27,910 --> 02:00:25,119
the dolores cannon i've i personally

2935
02:00:28,550 --> 02:00:27,920
well disclosure i'm married into the

2936
02:00:31,189 --> 02:00:28,560
family

2937
02:00:31,830 --> 02:00:31,199
you know and uh because my wife is her

2938
02:00:35,350 --> 02:00:31,840
grand

2939
02:00:36,390 --> 02:00:35,360
is dolores is her or my wife is dolores

2940
02:00:39,910 --> 02:00:36,400
granddaughter

2941
02:00:41,350 --> 02:00:39,920
and um i only got to interview dolores

2942
02:00:45,109 --> 02:00:41,360
the very first time

2943
02:00:45,750 --> 02:00:45,119
in 2014 which was right around that time

2944
02:00:48,149 --> 02:00:45,760
that i

2945
02:00:49,430 --> 02:00:48,159
met my wife because that's how the

2946
02:00:52,149 --> 02:00:49,440
connection came about

2947
02:00:52,550 --> 02:00:52,159
with the psychic telling her that she

2948
02:00:55,669 --> 02:00:52,560
knows

2949
02:00:56,070 --> 02:00:55,679
of me but we haven't officially met you

2950
02:00:58,550 --> 02:00:56,080
know

2951
02:00:59,430 --> 02:00:58,560
and that was actually also the time when

2952
02:01:01,830 --> 02:00:59,440
when

2953
02:01:02,950 --> 02:01:01,840
my wife and i first met but anyway what

2954
02:01:04,950 --> 02:01:02,960
i was going to say is

2955
02:01:06,149 --> 02:01:04,960
i wish i had more chances to talk to her

2956
02:01:08,229 --> 02:01:06,159
because

2957
02:01:09,669 --> 02:01:08,239
what i found very interesting about her

2958
02:01:11,669 --> 02:01:09,679
work is that

2959
02:01:12,950 --> 02:01:11,679
it's not just hypnosis in the

2960
02:01:15,350 --> 02:01:12,960
traditional sense but

2961
02:01:17,669 --> 02:01:15,360
she makes uh she talks them through to

2962
02:01:19,910 --> 02:01:17,679
get to a point to where they're so deep

2963
02:01:22,470 --> 02:01:19,920
into the trance to where

2964
02:01:23,990 --> 02:01:22,480
so much information and things like

2965
02:01:26,709 --> 02:01:24,000
weird things start

2966
02:01:27,189 --> 02:01:26,719
happening in the sense of uh information

2967
02:01:33,990 --> 02:01:27,199
and

2968
02:01:36,390 --> 02:01:34,000
would let's say

2969
02:01:38,149 --> 02:01:36,400
put a person in a trance she'll go to

2970
02:01:38,790 --> 02:01:38,159
that level where she needs to go with

2971
02:01:40,870 --> 02:01:38,800
them

2972
02:01:42,709 --> 02:01:40,880
to where they can do to seek help for

2973
02:01:45,430 --> 02:01:42,719
them but then after that's done

2974
02:01:47,430 --> 02:01:45,440
this this um i guess what she called the

2975
02:01:49,270 --> 02:01:47,440
source would come through and give her

2976
02:01:50,550 --> 02:01:49,280
sets of information which she eventually

2977
02:01:52,310 --> 02:01:50,560
based her books on

2978
02:01:54,229 --> 02:01:52,320
but what's interesting is now she'll go

2979
02:01:56,070 --> 02:01:54,239
to china talk to

2980
02:01:57,669 --> 02:01:56,080
a person that lives in china lived in

2981
02:02:01,030 --> 02:01:57,679
there all their life it it to

2982
02:02:04,229 --> 02:02:01,040
you know in that town and um you know

2983
02:02:06,149 --> 02:02:04,239
um then you know to whatever means

2984
02:02:07,510 --> 02:02:06,159
learned english well enough for her to

2985
02:02:10,149 --> 02:02:07,520
be able to then

2986
02:02:10,550 --> 02:02:10,159
talk them through to hypnosis and that

2987
02:02:12,629 --> 02:02:10,560
same

2988
02:02:13,589 --> 02:02:12,639
source would come through and continue

2989
02:02:16,310 --> 02:02:13,599
the information

2990
02:02:17,830 --> 02:02:16,320
that where they left off in america

2991
02:02:19,270 --> 02:02:17,840
through an entirely different person

2992
02:02:19,990 --> 02:02:19,280
that there's no way they could know each

2993
02:02:21,750 --> 02:02:20,000
other

2994
02:02:23,030 --> 02:02:21,760
so that's it was very interesting

2995
02:02:25,430 --> 02:02:23,040
information that

2996
02:02:26,629 --> 02:02:25,440
the books were written in that way you

2997
02:02:30,629 --> 02:02:26,639
know to where

2998
02:02:33,189 --> 02:02:30,639
um you know that it's coming through in

2999
02:02:34,149 --> 02:02:33,199
in this in in this esoteric and

3000
02:02:37,430 --> 02:02:34,159
interesting and

3001
02:02:38,470 --> 02:02:37,440
and very unless to say the least

3002
02:02:40,470 --> 02:02:38,480
interesting way

3003
02:02:41,910 --> 02:02:40,480
you know and it was information that's

3004
02:02:44,310 --> 02:02:41,920
very useful helpful

3005
02:02:45,669 --> 02:02:44,320
you know uh to because some people

3006
02:02:47,430 --> 02:02:45,679
always if you if you

3007
02:02:49,510 --> 02:02:47,440
depends on which religion you are you

3008
02:02:51,589 --> 02:02:49,520
would think well that's a demon that's

3009
02:02:55,510 --> 02:02:51,599
satan's work that's so and so

3010
02:02:58,229 --> 02:02:55,520
but you know why would the information

3011
02:02:59,669 --> 02:02:58,239
in the way it's it's told you know it

3012
02:03:01,510 --> 02:02:59,679
betters people's lives

3013
02:03:03,350 --> 02:03:01,520
so if it's supposed to be so negative

3014
02:03:04,390 --> 02:03:03,360
what's the point i mean did satan just

3015
02:03:06,790 --> 02:03:04,400
go through a

3016
02:03:08,550 --> 02:03:06,800
you know um you know some kind of

3017
02:03:09,910 --> 02:03:08,560
program to where i'm gonna do good from

3018
02:03:11,589 --> 02:03:09,920
now on you know what i mean

3019
02:03:13,109 --> 02:03:11,599
i don't mean to make any you know when i

3020
02:03:14,390 --> 02:03:13,119
say it in this way i don't need to make

3021
02:03:17,109 --> 02:03:14,400
fun of it i'm just saying

3022
02:03:17,750 --> 02:03:17,119
it it makes no sense logically to me

3023
02:03:20,790 --> 02:03:17,760
that it would

3024
02:03:22,950 --> 02:03:20,800
be a negative entity when

3025
02:03:24,790 --> 02:03:22,960
when based on the books that you read

3026
02:03:28,149 --> 02:03:24,800
and information given it's just there to

3027
02:03:31,030 --> 02:03:28,159
give information and help

3028
02:03:32,070 --> 02:03:31,040
um also sean i uh just letting you know

3029
02:03:34,709 --> 02:03:32,080
you probably heard this

3030
02:03:36,790 --> 02:03:34,719
if you also interested to talk um just

3031
02:03:38,149 --> 02:03:36,800
raise your hand let me know otherwise uh

3032
02:03:40,550 --> 02:03:38,159
you know welcome and

3033
02:03:41,990 --> 02:03:40,560
uh just listen in and anyone else

3034
02:03:43,589 --> 02:03:42,000
watching this

3035
02:03:45,270 --> 02:03:43,599
looks like we'll be on there just you

3036
02:03:48,310 --> 02:03:45,280
know a little bit longer here so

3037
02:03:50,229 --> 02:03:48,320
if you want to join us on telegram or or

3038
02:03:53,910 --> 02:03:50,239
maybe next time please make sure you

3039
02:03:56,550 --> 02:03:53,920
download telegram find ufo hub and

3040
02:03:57,669 --> 02:03:56,560
if i manage to have these open lines

3041
02:03:59,750 --> 02:03:57,679
once a week then

3042
02:04:02,550 --> 02:03:59,760
you know to chime in and share your

3043
02:04:04,870 --> 02:04:02,560
story story with us

3044
02:04:07,750 --> 02:04:04,880
so um nathan is there anything else you

3045
02:04:09,669 --> 02:04:07,760
would like to talk about

3046
02:04:11,510 --> 02:04:09,679
no i think that was a good uh a good

3047
02:04:12,229 --> 02:04:11,520
point that you you made and i really

3048
02:04:14,470 --> 02:04:12,239
appreciate that

3049
02:04:16,470 --> 02:04:14,480
i just found that your connection with

3050
02:04:18,310 --> 02:04:16,480
dolores cannon to be pretty cool

3051
02:04:19,750 --> 02:04:18,320
i i had no idea that you were connected

3052
02:04:21,990 --> 02:04:19,760
in such a way

3053
02:04:23,750 --> 02:04:22,000
uh secretary city has has to find a way

3054
02:04:26,390 --> 02:04:23,760
you know

3055
02:04:27,189 --> 02:04:26,400
right right well it worked out great too

3056
02:04:28,950 --> 02:04:27,199
because uh

3057
02:04:30,550 --> 02:04:28,960
for the company that she started which

3058
02:04:34,470 --> 02:04:30,560
is ozark mountain publishing

3059
02:04:36,709 --> 02:04:34,480
back in 1992 um for the location where

3060
02:04:39,430 --> 02:04:36,719
it's at it's very difficult to find

3061
02:04:41,910 --> 02:04:39,440
people that can help out into this to

3062
02:04:45,990 --> 02:04:41,920
jump over to this new digital age

3063
02:04:48,870 --> 02:04:46,000
and what's interesting is that

3064
02:04:49,910 --> 02:04:48,880
it just so happened that not only was it

3065
02:04:52,310 --> 02:04:49,920
synchronicity

3066
02:04:53,910 --> 02:04:52,320
in my own personal life you know talking

3067
02:04:55,669 --> 02:04:53,920
about let's just talk to you about my

3068
02:04:57,990 --> 02:04:55,679
previous job where i just quit it and

3069
02:05:00,629 --> 02:04:58,000
next thing i know i found another

3070
02:05:01,510 --> 02:05:00,639
it just so worked out that i found the

3071
02:05:05,430 --> 02:05:01,520
job

3072
02:05:08,149 --> 02:05:05,440
working for the company that my

3073
02:05:09,669 --> 02:05:08,159
um my wife's grandmother started and of

3074
02:05:11,750 --> 02:05:09,679
course they met my wife

3075
02:05:12,709 --> 02:05:11,760
and in return they're getting the skills

3076
02:05:15,830 --> 02:05:12,719
that i had

3077
02:05:17,109 --> 02:05:15,840
initially you know started out as

3078
02:05:19,030 --> 02:05:17,119
you know when i was younger about

3079
02:05:19,669 --> 02:05:19,040
technology so that i can help them out

3080
02:05:22,470 --> 02:05:19,679
with

3081
02:05:23,350 --> 02:05:22,480
websites and videos and editing and

3082
02:05:26,550 --> 02:05:23,360
recording

3083
02:05:27,430 --> 02:05:26,560
and pictures and i t and network and all

3084
02:05:29,430 --> 02:05:27,440
of that stuff

3085
02:05:31,350 --> 02:05:29,440
so talking about things working out

3086
02:05:33,510 --> 02:05:31,360
that's like the ultimate

3087
02:05:38,709 --> 02:05:33,520
you know everything falling into place

3088
02:05:44,550 --> 02:05:42,629
definitely okay well um

3089
02:05:46,550 --> 02:05:44,560
so nathan well thank you very much again

3090
02:05:48,709 --> 02:05:46,560
and john is still on looks like sean is

3091
02:05:51,669 --> 02:05:48,719
left which is fine and i was gonna

3092
02:05:52,629 --> 02:05:51,679
conclude right now so it's been about

3093
02:05:54,870 --> 02:05:52,639
two hours

3094
02:05:55,669 --> 02:05:54,880
and i know all of us haven't talked for

3095
02:05:58,069 --> 02:05:55,679
that long but

3096
02:05:58,709 --> 02:05:58,079
uh i thank you all very much for coming

3097
02:06:01,109 --> 02:05:58,719
on to

3098
02:06:02,709 --> 02:06:01,119
for the first recording this whole the

3099
02:06:04,870 --> 02:06:02,719
this live stream will stay on and

3100
02:06:07,510 --> 02:06:04,880
continue to stay on live on

3101
02:06:09,350 --> 02:06:07,520
on youtube and if anyone out there wants

3102
02:06:11,589 --> 02:06:09,360
to rewatch it but uh

3103
02:06:12,709 --> 02:06:11,599
uh anyone else that is still watching

3104
02:06:15,830 --> 02:06:12,719
this is supposed to be

3105
02:06:18,229 --> 02:06:15,840
a basically just a trial to see how open

3106
02:06:20,310 --> 02:06:18,239
open line open lines would work and it

3107
02:06:23,910 --> 02:06:20,320
seems to be working pretty good

3108
02:06:25,669 --> 02:06:23,920
so that any of you out there have a

3109
02:06:27,030 --> 02:06:25,679
have an experience to share i would like

3110
02:06:29,189 --> 02:06:27,040
to hear from you because i mean it's

3111
02:06:31,270 --> 02:06:29,199
great i'll always continue having the

3112
02:06:33,750 --> 02:06:31,280
more known people to talk about stuff

3113
02:06:36,470 --> 02:06:33,760
but you're you're matter just as much

3114
02:06:37,750 --> 02:06:36,480
you know and uh in whatever little way

3115
02:06:41,030 --> 02:06:37,760
you think you matter

3116
02:06:43,189 --> 02:06:41,040
you know um and so maybe just by

3117
02:06:44,950 --> 02:06:43,199
by being a little bit more courageous

3118
02:06:46,870 --> 02:06:44,960
just come out and talk

3119
02:06:48,229 --> 02:06:46,880
because with everyone else having the

3120
02:06:50,870 --> 02:06:48,239
same mindset to come out

3121
02:06:51,830 --> 02:06:50,880
and want to publicly discuss the stories

3122
02:06:54,069 --> 02:06:51,840
it wouldn't be

3123
02:06:55,430 --> 02:06:54,079
an obscure topic anymore it would become

3124
02:06:59,669 --> 02:06:55,440
the new mainstream

3125
02:07:02,229 --> 02:06:59,679
and so yeah everyone else watching thank

3126
02:07:08,950 --> 02:07:05,669
yeah i'm gonna um there's andy they just

3127
02:07:10,550 --> 02:07:08,960
uh hopped on andy if you wanted to um

3128
02:07:12,470 --> 02:07:10,560
to ask a question please let me know and

3129
02:07:15,750 --> 02:07:12,480
i'll stay stay on longer and

3130
02:07:18,149 --> 02:07:15,760
and hear what you have to say but um

3131
02:07:18,870 --> 02:07:18,159
if you're just here to listen i'm sorry

3132
02:07:20,550 --> 02:07:18,880
to say where

3133
02:07:22,069 --> 02:07:20,560
we're concluding but i would love to

3134
02:07:24,149 --> 02:07:22,079
hear any stories that

3135
02:07:25,350 --> 02:07:24,159
if you have any so just raise your hand

3136
02:07:27,910 --> 02:07:25,360
if you do

3137
02:07:29,830 --> 02:07:27,920
otherwise if you stay as a listener then

3138
02:07:32,950 --> 02:07:29,840
i just know you just

3139
02:07:34,709 --> 02:07:32,960
came by to to listen but unfortunately

3140
02:07:37,030 --> 02:07:34,719
we're concluding nathan i'm going to

3141
02:07:39,589 --> 02:07:37,040
meet you thank you again you know and uh

3142
02:07:40,950 --> 02:07:39,599
um i appreciate you uh listening and

3143
02:07:47,750 --> 02:07:40,960
watching

3144
02:07:53,669 --> 02:07:51,030
okay so

3145
02:07:55,589 --> 02:07:53,679
um let me see i just want to go back a

3146
02:07:57,430 --> 02:07:55,599
little bit to the chat

3147
02:07:59,430 --> 02:07:57,440
yeah any of you watching that are in

3148
02:08:01,109 --> 02:07:59,440
chat i'm sorry i haven't focused so much

3149
02:08:03,669 --> 02:08:01,119
on the chat itself

3150
02:08:04,550 --> 02:08:03,679
um this was mainly a focus for open

3151
02:08:09,350 --> 02:08:04,560
lines

3152
02:08:11,589 --> 02:08:09,360
and um i'm uh grateful to

3153
02:08:13,589 --> 02:08:11,599
some of you that logged in john and

3154
02:08:17,750 --> 02:08:13,599
nathan i appreciate that

3155
02:08:20,470 --> 02:08:17,760
and to speak to me instead of me just

3156
02:08:21,430 --> 02:08:20,480
reading more of the chat list but yeah

3157
02:08:24,310 --> 02:08:21,440
please download

3158
02:08:25,669 --> 02:08:24,320
telegram and it's very easy or at least

3159
02:08:28,229 --> 02:08:25,679
a lot easier for me

3160
02:08:29,430 --> 02:08:28,239
and it's a great messenger software i

3161
02:08:33,109 --> 02:08:29,440
use it all the time

3162
02:08:34,950 --> 02:08:33,119
i've replaced facebook messenger and

3163
02:08:37,030 --> 02:08:34,960
which was something i was using heavily

3164
02:08:38,310 --> 02:08:37,040
but on my personal account i cancelled

3165
02:08:41,510 --> 02:08:38,320
my account a while back

3166
02:08:43,990 --> 02:08:41,520
i maintained the ufo hub account

3167
02:08:44,950 --> 02:08:44,000
you know but um you know and i got you

3168
02:08:46,950 --> 02:08:44,960
know

3169
02:08:49,109 --> 02:08:46,960
got out of messenger and using this

3170
02:08:51,510 --> 02:08:49,119
instead it's a great platform it has

3171
02:08:53,189 --> 02:08:51,520
a lot less limitations on how many

3172
02:08:54,870 --> 02:08:53,199
videos you can post

3173
02:08:56,629 --> 02:08:54,880
uh connecting with friends and when i

3174
02:08:58,550 --> 02:08:56,639
did a lot of other friends

3175
02:08:59,830 --> 02:08:58,560
were reaching out basically tell you

3176
02:09:02,470 --> 02:08:59,840
know welcoming me and

3177
02:09:03,669 --> 02:09:02,480
i had no idea they were on it because

3178
02:09:03,990 --> 02:09:03,679
you can either sign up through your

3179
02:09:07,510 --> 02:09:04,000
phone

3180
02:09:10,550 --> 02:09:07,520
number or you can sign up i believe

3181
02:09:13,669 --> 02:09:10,560
through an email but

3182
02:09:16,470 --> 02:09:13,679
yeah if you have telegram you can

3183
02:09:18,390 --> 02:09:16,480
just after you open an account then the

3184
02:09:20,950 --> 02:09:18,400
search search for the ufo

3185
02:09:21,910 --> 02:09:20,960
uh group and uh you'll find the channel

3186
02:09:24,069 --> 02:09:21,920
and um

3187
02:09:26,149 --> 02:09:24,079
i'll see i'll do another poll and i'm

3188
02:09:28,069 --> 02:09:26,159
hoping that a lot of you will partake to

3189
02:09:30,629 --> 02:09:28,079
give me good feedback to see where

3190
02:09:33,350 --> 02:09:30,639
everybody's mindset stands um i was

3191
02:09:35,350 --> 02:09:33,360
gonna see if this is something you guys

3192
02:09:36,790 --> 02:09:35,360
would like me to do maybe once a week

3193
02:09:39,189 --> 02:09:36,800
which i don't mind doing

3194
02:09:41,109 --> 02:09:39,199
if i know that uh there's enough

3195
02:09:44,550 --> 02:09:41,119
interest for people to want to

3196
02:09:46,390 --> 02:09:44,560
uh come on and um to just share

3197
02:09:48,470 --> 02:09:46,400
share their experiences because like i

3198
02:09:50,709 --> 02:09:48,480
said a lot of times you just hear me

3199
02:09:51,910 --> 02:09:50,719
talk to a person that has published a

3200
02:09:54,069 --> 02:09:51,920
book or

3201
02:09:55,589 --> 02:09:54,079
has some sort of experience and whatnot

3202
02:09:57,430 --> 02:09:55,599
that's well known

3203
02:10:00,629 --> 02:09:57,440
but you know you matter as well of

3204
02:10:03,030 --> 02:10:00,639
course and um

3205
02:10:04,950 --> 02:10:03,040
it's at least something to start doing

3206
02:10:07,350 --> 02:10:04,960
more publicly because i used to attend a

3207
02:10:09,830 --> 02:10:07,360
lot of meetings in san luis to where

3208
02:10:11,750 --> 02:10:09,840
it was so you know people liked it that

3209
02:10:13,910 --> 02:10:11,760
it was behind closed doors

3210
02:10:15,430 --> 02:10:13,920
and they always felt comfortable to

3211
02:10:16,870 --> 02:10:15,440
share their stories because they know

3212
02:10:19,109 --> 02:10:16,880
they wouldn't be judged

3213
02:10:20,709 --> 02:10:19,119
but it was always interesting eventually

3214
02:10:22,629 --> 02:10:20,719
the meeting would turn into

3215
02:10:23,990 --> 02:10:22,639
how government is always doing something

3216
02:10:25,750 --> 02:10:24,000
behind closed doors

3217
02:10:27,589 --> 02:10:25,760
and i brought that up in a meeting one

3218
02:10:29,109 --> 02:10:27,599
time and i said well you can't always

3219
02:10:29,589 --> 02:10:29,119
blame the government for always doing

3220
02:10:31,109 --> 02:10:29,599
everything

3221
02:10:32,790 --> 02:10:31,119
you know behind closed doors and you

3222
02:10:33,430 --> 02:10:32,800
complaining about why you don't know

3223
02:10:35,510 --> 02:10:33,440
more

3224
02:10:38,069 --> 02:10:35,520
but yet here we are doing the same thing

3225
02:10:39,830 --> 02:10:38,079
you know it's not

3226
02:10:41,750 --> 02:10:39,840
anything that you should be afraid of

3227
02:10:44,790 --> 02:10:41,760
you know any experiences whether it's

3228
02:10:46,390 --> 02:10:44,800
ghost encounters uh cryptids uh you know

3229
02:10:49,109 --> 02:10:46,400
like bigfoot encounters

3230
02:10:50,709 --> 02:10:49,119
uh ufos aliens you know abductions all

3231
02:10:52,950 --> 02:10:50,719
these different things are

3232
02:10:54,310 --> 02:10:52,960
you know part of this this collective

3233
02:10:56,950 --> 02:10:54,320
psyche that's

3234
02:10:59,189 --> 02:10:56,960
that's had no head no in a way i see

3235
02:11:01,350 --> 02:10:59,199
they had no choice but to spill out into

3236
02:11:02,629 --> 02:11:01,360
forms like mine and many others that are

3237
02:11:04,069 --> 02:11:02,639
out there on youtube

3238
02:11:06,550 --> 02:11:04,079
to where finally people are going to

3239
02:11:10,229 --> 02:11:06,560
have to talk about it and they cannot be

3240
02:11:13,189 --> 02:11:10,239
constantly be oppressed people need some

3241
02:11:14,709 --> 02:11:13,199
someone out there to to talk to or share

3242
02:11:16,470 --> 02:11:14,719
their experiences to know that they're

3243
02:11:18,149 --> 02:11:16,480
not the only ones that had these

3244
02:11:20,950 --> 02:11:18,159
weird things that a lot of family

3245
02:11:23,350 --> 02:11:20,960
members don't accept

3246
02:11:24,149 --> 02:11:23,360
but when you do come out as i've said

3247
02:11:26,069 --> 02:11:24,159
many times

3248
02:11:27,270 --> 02:11:26,079
it's amazing how many more will then

3249
02:11:29,030 --> 02:11:27,280
look at you as the

3250
02:11:31,109 --> 02:11:29,040
go-to person where they would feel

3251
02:11:32,550 --> 02:11:31,119
comfortable to say well i had these same

3252
02:11:34,709 --> 02:11:32,560
experiences but i didn't want to speak

3253
02:11:37,510 --> 02:11:34,719
up but now you said something first and

3254
02:11:38,310 --> 02:11:37,520
then you know i'm able to come and talk

3255
02:11:39,910 --> 02:11:38,320
to you

3256
02:11:41,990 --> 02:11:39,920
and the next thing you know there's four

3257
02:11:45,270 --> 02:11:42,000
or five people in within your immediate

3258
02:11:46,149 --> 02:11:45,280
uh uh family that basically felt the

3259
02:11:47,830 --> 02:11:46,159
same way but

3260
02:11:49,750 --> 02:11:47,840
didn't quite have the same courage as

3261
02:11:51,910 --> 02:11:49,760
you did to just be more

3262
02:11:53,750 --> 02:11:51,920
public about it i don't mean necessarily

3263
02:11:55,750 --> 02:11:53,760
pushing it on other people but just not

3264
02:11:57,350 --> 02:11:55,760
make it a secret when you're being asked

3265
02:11:58,069 --> 02:11:57,360
what are you doing i'm going to ufo

3266
02:11:59,430 --> 02:11:58,079
meeting

3267
02:12:01,750 --> 02:11:59,440
where you go next week and i'm going to

3268
02:12:03,589 --> 02:12:01,760
a conference where they discuss ufos

3269
02:12:05,109 --> 02:12:03,599
you know and things like that to just be

3270
02:12:07,030 --> 02:12:05,119
nonchalant about it

3271
02:12:08,709 --> 02:12:07,040
you know because you should be able to

3272
02:12:09,990 --> 02:12:08,719
say that in the same sense that people

3273
02:12:11,270 --> 02:12:10,000
when they talk about

3274
02:12:13,109 --> 02:12:11,280
oh what are you doing next week i'm

3275
02:12:14,069 --> 02:12:13,119
going a baseball game or oh we're having

3276
02:12:16,069 --> 02:12:14,079
a barbecue

3277
02:12:18,229 --> 02:12:16,079
you know to discuss topics like this

3278
02:12:20,870 --> 02:12:18,239
should be just as simple as that

3279
02:12:22,229 --> 02:12:20,880
and so the more of you just find the

3280
02:12:24,310 --> 02:12:22,239
courage to speak

3281
02:12:25,589 --> 02:12:24,320
at least from the videos you've seen

3282
02:12:28,629 --> 02:12:25,599
that i've done and

3283
02:12:31,030 --> 02:12:28,639
the way i like to talk to people that

3284
02:12:32,069 --> 02:12:31,040
there is no judgment is just talking to

3285
02:12:34,550 --> 02:12:32,079
each other

3286
02:12:35,109 --> 02:12:34,560
you know exchanging ideas and seeing who

3287
02:12:36,950 --> 02:12:35,119
knows

3288
02:12:38,310 --> 02:12:36,960
different information and what else is

3289
02:12:40,310 --> 02:12:38,320
out there that

3290
02:12:41,350 --> 02:12:40,320
you know another may not have

3291
02:12:44,390 --> 02:12:41,360
experienced

3292
02:12:46,390 --> 02:12:44,400
so feel free to to just download

3293
02:12:50,790 --> 02:12:46,400
telegram come and speak to me

3294
02:12:51,030 --> 02:12:50,800
you know uh just subscribe to ufo hub

3295
02:12:53,030 --> 02:12:51,040
and

3296
02:12:54,310 --> 02:12:53,040
watch some other interviews that i'll

3297
02:12:56,149 --> 02:12:54,320
you know keep on doing

3298
02:12:57,830 --> 02:12:56,159
with uh like i said a bit more

3299
02:13:00,229 --> 02:12:57,840
well-known people but

3300
02:13:01,350 --> 02:13:00,239
uh just don't don't be afraid don't be

3301
02:13:04,149 --> 02:13:01,360
afraid to

3302
02:13:05,270 --> 02:13:04,159
um to just come out come out the closet

3303
02:13:09,030 --> 02:13:05,280
so to say

3304
02:13:11,990 --> 02:13:09,040
out of the ufo metaphysical closet

3305
02:13:12,629 --> 02:13:12,000
so anyway thank you all very much again

3306
02:13:15,750 --> 02:13:12,639
uh john

3307
02:13:16,870 --> 02:13:15,760
and nathan and andy and sean earlier

3308
02:13:19,430 --> 02:13:16,880
that were listening

3309
02:13:20,229 --> 02:13:19,440
thank you for helping me figure out that

3310
02:13:22,950 --> 02:13:20,239
this

3311
02:13:25,189 --> 02:13:22,960
experiment was working out great and

3312
02:13:27,430 --> 02:13:25,199
that it's something that we can continue

3313
02:13:29,910 --> 02:13:27,440
maybe in the future because if there's

3314
02:13:31,270 --> 02:13:29,920
more people there might be less time to

3315
02:13:34,229 --> 02:13:31,280
to give to each person

3316
02:13:35,430 --> 02:13:34,239
but you know if you keep coming back

3317
02:13:37,350 --> 02:13:35,440
week after week

3318
02:13:39,669 --> 02:13:37,360
eventually you know i will i will get to

3319
02:13:42,229 --> 02:13:39,679
you so

3320
02:13:42,709 --> 02:13:42,239
yeah well thank you all very much again

3321
02:13:45,109 --> 02:13:42,719
i'm

3322
02:13:46,390 --> 02:13:45,119
just going to be stopping the stream

3323
02:13:49,510 --> 02:13:46,400
here real soon

3324
02:13:52,709 --> 02:13:49,520
and closing out the the telegram

3325
02:13:55,350 --> 02:13:52,719
voice chat so thank you for tuning in

3326
02:13:56,950 --> 02:13:55,360
i hope you enjoyed this and uh tune in

3327
02:14:00,149 --> 02:13:56,960
for friday 7 p.m

3328
02:14:03,669 --> 02:14:00,159
i'm going to be talking to mike dooley

3329
02:14:05,750 --> 02:14:03,679
and i hope you can log in there

3330
02:14:07,030 --> 02:14:05,760
and get to ask some questions as well